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Nottingham Forest vs Leeds United Match Day Thread

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by DamnedUnited, Dec 18, 2014.

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Full Time Score Predictions

Poll closed Dec 20, 2014.
  1. Leeds to win by 2+ Goals

    15.0%
  2. Leeds to win by 1 Goal

    20.0%
  3. Draw

    10.0%
  4. Forest to win by 1 Goal

    10.0%
  5. Forest to win by 2+ Goals

    45.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Sorry I didn't realise no opinions allowed so if it is facts please rule out your biased rose tinted view when you attend games and instead try going by stats, comparing now to this time last season.

    league position worse, less chances, less goals, less wins, less points, less possession, any more? As we are dealing in facts only... Redfearns last stint in charge 10 points from a possible 12 this time round nowhere near that so we are worse.

    In answer to your question though several times on TV, opinions of others more balanced than you who attend games and league position and results do not lie.
     
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  2. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Seen as you want to justify your opinion against Ristacs by how many games you have been to this year, well I have been to more than anyone else who posts here and he is 100% correct.
    In the only meaningful ways we are worse than last year. If we dont improve we will end up relegated.

    Now like everyone here I hope we improve, I differ from most here because I believe under Cellino and Redfearn we will get relegated... This season.

    Now all we can do is see who turns out to be correct.
     
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  3. lifecheshirewhite

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    You just quoted a load of facts,lets see them then,put the link up.As a lot of the games I remember from last year we created very few chances.You also didn't say its your opinion,you said it as if its a fact.When its just a guess as you have posted no facts to back it up.Here's one for you look up the first 4 games stats,and compair them with the last 4 games stats,not even looked myself but my money is on the last four will show more shots,shots on goal and possession.This go's for Glory too show us.Because without anything to back up your statements it comes over as a load of made up crap.
     
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  4. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    It's always the same on here when someone doesn't like anything negative pointed out: "Oooh you said it like it is a fact not an opinion"

    Do you honestly need me to provide proof that our league position, Goals scored, average points per game, less wins are all worse than this time last year?? Come on, don't be childish, you just have to compare the league table this year compared to this time last year, any fool can see that.

    As we are talking facts not opinion do you also need proof that we were a better team statistic wise when Redfearn had his last stint in charge, we won 3 and drew 1 we haven't done that since.

    You ignore the obvious facts and play the same card every time, dismissing someone because they fail to start every thread on here with "This is just my opinion" - I tell you what, YOU supply the FACTS that we are a better team <ok> Chippy has asked several members to supply proof or asked the question "based on what?" when people say we are better and not once have I seen anyone reply, every time someone states we are better or things are looking up it is based on an opinion not a fact.
     
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  5. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    Morning Ristac,

    I clearly remember this time last year you saying we were in a false position, played none of the top sides, got points from games we shouldn't have got anything from etc, and you were spot on. I don't think any of us could believe we were 5th after some of the dire performances we had to endure. That luck couldn't last, and so it proved.

    I'd love to see stats from the second half of last season to the first half of this one and compare the points to games ratio.
     
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  6. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    Last season after 21 games Leeds were 5th http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2013-2014/table/2013-12-21
    Season before 12th http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2012-2013/table/2012-12-18
    2011/12 5th http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2011-2012/table/2011-12-19
    2010/11 2nd http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2010-2011/table/2010-12-18


    This is your worsed 1st half to a season since the season you went down to League 1 - Is this fact enough?
     
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  7. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    What's the stats from second half of last season?
     
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  8. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I can't argue with any of that, you have to take the post you are quoting into context though, according to LCW we are not allowed to use opinion, just facts. YES that was and still is my opinion of this time last year but as it is an opinion it doesn't count, LCW wants facts <ok>

    The whole opinion/stats/proof thing can always be manipulated to prove anyone's point but then I am far more open to other peoples opinions than some.
     
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  9. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    Second half of last season we amassed the grand total of 22 points from 23 games playing aimless hoofball, and 3 of those points came when McDonut wasn't in charge.

    So far this season we have 24 points from 22 games playing passing football, despite having Hockaday in charge at the start.

    A definite improvement
     
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  10. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Let's see come the end of the season, last season we won 16 games, we scored 59 and we conceded 67

    IF we beat Wigan 1-0 for arguments sake that will give us 7 wins, 28 points, 17 goals and 32 conceded

    Repeat that form for the second half of the season and we will finish on 14 wins, 56 points, 34 goals and 64 conceded

    IF that is the case you can't possibly say we are improving.
     
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  11. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if this lot will get that many points if they don't get paid from 1 month to the next <whistle>
     
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  12. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    There's a lot of 'ifs' in those quotes lads :grin:
     
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  13. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    We are getting better.

    FACT: Last few seasons I've watched the matches through my fingers: this season I haven't, and have even enjoyed watching most of the matches.

    Some people have short memories.
     
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  14. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I agree, I said IF we win, we might not then it will be a pretty miserable looking table and the optimism will vanish from almost everyone.
     
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  15. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    IF we lose to Wigan we'd still have improved over the first half of this season compared to the second half of last season, by 2 points
     
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  16. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Last two seasons were basically unwatchable. Dire in most games
     
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  17. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    Yet your average home attendances were considerably higher than this season - typical weird Northern types for you <ok>
     
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  18. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Yeah miles better 2 extra points from 1 less game, and our best spell a distant memory ago...
    Please don't ever be on my side in an argument.


    Hw bad does it have to get before you see the light.
    We might get 3 points from the next three games. If we get less then even Boggers, you, and chesh will have to start accepting that we are rank bad!
     
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  19. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    You have watched quite a few from cruise ships and dentists chair.
    But you get desensitised to watching this carp over time.
     
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  20. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say it was miles better, I said it was a definite improvement you ****ing miserable ****
     
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