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Blackburn Rovers v Charlton Athletic Match Thread

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by Addick4Life, Dec 18, 2014.

  1. Bitter & Malicious

    Bitter & Malicious Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't change anything because that is not where the problem lies. Try "shuffle the owners again".
     
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  2. Bitter & Malicious

    Bitter & Malicious Well-Known Member

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    That would do for me.

    The ancient prophesy foretold that the Blessed Saint Christopher would join three times as player and three times as manager.
     
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  3. CAFC TED

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    No no no, can't be going backwards like that... much like our attacking play, we need to go forwards not sideways or backwards.

    BP needs to learn to attack and that there should be 2 strikers, once he does that I think we could be a bit more successful. If Peeters doesn't though he can go and we can bring in some other bloke to walk through the revolving door that is our manager's office.
     
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  4. ForestHillBilly

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    If Roland was to find a new manager he'd be looking for one on the cheap, who would accept a contract until the end of the season, with no money to spend. I'd do it, but then again I'm a retired postman, a top manager might not find this an attractive proposition.
     
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  5. Kent Addick

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    good managers are hard to find. we thought powell was going to be great but he turned into the nightmare and he is now dragging udders down to relegation zone like he did us. udders got loads of strikers but they still cant score and the fans want powelly out. they say his set up is boring and defensive but they sure cant say we didnt warn them.

    may be we should of stuck with riga. but bob will not be sacked whatever messageboard nutters say. he's only got one year contract and as we aint going up or down theres no point changing until end of the season is there?
     
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  6. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    It's not time for Bob out yet. I don't want to become a club that changes managers at the first few signs of trouble. He just have to earn his stripes now and work harder than ever to turn our fortunes around.

    I do have some sympathy for BP in the fact a one year deal must put on added pressures. I'm not a fan of these deals in football on the whole, and was a large factor in our demise under the last fews years of murrays era. It doesn't evoke much confidence from upstairs and constantly has you looking over your shoulders. If RD wasn't sure he was the man at the time then he should have looked elsewhere.

    Unfortunately I just think it's a sign of things to come.
     
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  7. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Roland is a difficult boss to work under, verging on the impossible. There is an obvious problem with hiring cheap managers on short term deals. If that manager is successful he'll attract the attention of more generous clubs. If not, his contract expires and the players have to adjust to a new manager all over again. Either way we end up with a revolving door policy.
     
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  8. The Kish

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    This one was all Eddie's fault. I stayed away from the pre-match build up through fear of mentioning 'Operation Ewood' and putting the knockers on it, then Eddie goes and says about Rhodes and Morro!
     
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  9. Captain Blackaddick

    Captain Blackaddick Well-Known Member

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    Really poor performance. Blackburn are a good side but we made them look even better.

    For a start, playing Solly on the right wing was odd. I understand that we want to see Gomez as much as possible, but I'd rather see Solly at RB and Gomez at LB. Fox wasn't our worst player yesterday but I think Gomez can do a better job than him.

    We've been used to Bikey and Ben Haim winning pretty much everything in the air. Well, yesterday they won practically nothing. Rhodes and Gestede tormented us from the off and won every aerial ball, putting us under more pressure and indeed leading to the second goal. By contrast, the Blackburn centre-backs won everything, not giving Igor or Pigott a sniff. It wasn't just in the air either; it seemed Blackburn players came away with the ball after every tackle.

    It's obvious how fragile Pope's confidence is. He and Cousins were both guilty for the first goal, as the ball shouldn't really have been played short but Cousins should still have dealt with it quicker. From then on it was inevitable that Rhodes would score. Shortly afterwards Pope dropped a cross under no pressure whatsoever and we conceded a corner. The second goal came from a long ball, Rhodes nipped in ahead of Ben Haim and poked it beyond Pope, who I think should have been stronger. 2-0 after 20 minutes, and the game was as good as over. It's worth mentioning that he did make a couple of fine saves after that, so it's clearly not shot-stopping that's the problem for him. But given the rave reviews from York fans about his aerial domination it's worrying how bad he's been in that regard for us.

    We barely created anything. One decent cross from Solly in the first half which both Igor and Wilson might have done better with (though I'm not sure as it was at the far end) and a good move leading to a fluffed right-footed effort from Harriott was all we could muster. We played a little better in the second half but still barely troubled the keeper. Bikey and Vetokele headed off-target from corners, but that was it.

    The most troubling thing was that whatever we tried to do was easily foiled. When we passed it out from the back Blackburn swarmed all over us and we ended up booting it long and losing it. When Pope did take goal kicks long our forwards were beaten to the ball every time, and our midfield was always second to the loose ball. Whilst we have been dealt a big blow by losing Jackson and Coquelin at the same time, the decline in our midfield from its early season pomp is shocking.

    Bob has a lot of work to do.
     
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  10. ForestHillBilly

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    Looks as though we've been sussed. Our back 4 gets pressurised, the ball inevitably goes back to the goalie who has to make a rushed clearance and we give the ball away. When Plan A fails we have no Plan B. And we don't seem to pressurise defenders the same way, at least you knew Church would do this tirelessly for 90 minutes.
     
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  11. typical

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    It's strangely ironic that our last five managers have all been

    Playing players out of position
    Lacked attacking intent
    Not performing at home


    Kinda not seen anything new or even different for a very long time now as a cafc fan
     
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  12. Bitter & Malicious

    Bitter & Malicious Well-Known Member

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    You sure about that?

    But you are right that changing the manager won't help.
     
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  13. Bitter & Malicious

    Bitter & Malicious Well-Known Member

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    I thought you were too young and "cool" to be superstitious.

    I maintain a calm and unprejudiced view. I forecast a 2-0 defeat and it came to pass. My renown as a tipster is legendary. I am thinking of going professional. I have just watched a film with Al Pacino in which he charged punters hundreds of dollars for tips. What is the consensus here? Should I start with 9.95?
     
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  14. Bitter & Malicious

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    .... duplicated. Sorry. Mods pleased delete.
     
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  15. Ken Shabby

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    Okay, just about cooled down. Having said that, I've also read Bobs post match statement, which for me, took me back through the years to the days of Pardew. So he did'nt understand why we came out of the blocks so slowly, and were so inept in the first forty five minutes? Perhaps the same reason we played so lackadaisically against Blackpool. Other weeks where we've sat back and let the other team dictate spring to mind. Anyway, he's the manager. He had the whole week to prepare that one, did a por job, and even when things were going wrong, took his time to try and correct it. I've always been very slow to demand a change of manager as generally, I think it's very disruptive, and anyway Charlton seem curiously crap at finding good managers (RD seemed to have bucked the trend with Jose, but he let him go for Mr Peeters, so my personal jury is out at the moment). Whatever, last week was a crap result, yesterday was an expected surrender, and we drift into Christmas basically rudderless. There was a rumour we might be signing five players in january, but a) it was an ubstantiated rumour at best and b) who cares, at the moment we need five signings mínimum to get one half decent player.
    Yep, I'm still depressed. :-(
     
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    Well done the Charlton fans who smelt a big dirty rotting corpulent rat from the moment Duchatelet and Meire first walked through the door,


    Yes, the pitch and the pies are better, but the team/ squad is just as weak as it was under S&J.

    Particular scorn should be aimed at the likes of Reams and others who grovelled on all 4s when RD arrived and ejaculated over a copy of European Rothmans every time some trash/ cast offs turned up.

    They, and the owner, are now getting exposed.
     
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  17. dick plumb

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    I think the squad is better than last Seasons, but we have more holes than Rab C. Nesbitt's string vest.
     
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    Why I thank you kind Sir :D

    As of the Millwall game (Saturday before last) I could see absolutely no investment in our training centre at all..... fine words by the owner (about improving it) but no action !

    The only investment in the youth set-up seems to be coming from Valley Gold! while the owner makes cuts like Hart being released :(
     
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  19. typical

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    This is not the time to say I told you so - but we did. Most on here saw the risks of being a franchise club - note not a 'network' but a franchise. A network suggests a chain and the qualities of a chain. As a franchise we are a barstard child.

    I'm very concerned that Roland Frankenstein is building his monster wth the cheapest parts availabile, using the body of Susan Boyle and the brains of Reams. This club has the next few weeks to save its season and itself. We are fast becoming that Breville Sandwich Maker. The sort of white goods you unpack for a few weeks and then realise, it's a pile of shat that you can't clean and burns your fingers.

    We my cafc friends are going to spend a long time stuck at the back of the cupboard unused, and unloved.
     
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  20. dick plumb

    dick plumb Well-Known Member

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    You obviously didn't see the double page spread in the Programme for the Blackpool game. I will give you a brief summary of what it said.

    "Plans for Charlton's training ground development of Sparrows lane are progressing following the implementation of a new project team. Building construction firm Emmaus and HB architects are now working together with the Club to discuss requirements and design to the Community integrated training facility, which will be a high spec and modern performance environment for the clubs first team and Academy.

    The plans originally submitted to the Royal Borough of Greenwich, which were approved earlier this year, have since been revised and will shortly, be submitted once again for approval.
    Adjustments to the original concept have been made following fresh visits made by members of the project team, including Academy Manager Steve Avory, to several state of the art training facilities around the Country.

    The Club has received confirmation of a grant from the Football Foundation towards the original project and talks will now continue with other partners to agree their requirements for the development. The integrated facility will be used by Charlton's Community Trust and other local partners, including the University of Greenwich, it's students, Council and other Community and Sports initiatives.
    Members of the project team will shortly meet with specialist pitch consultants to discuss the options for future improvements to the quality of the playing surfaces and drainage at Sparrows Lane.

    Revised planning applications are likely to be submitted in early 2015 and it is hoped that construction will be able to begin in September of next year with a view to completing the project in late 2016".

    So things are progressing All Hell, these things take time.
     
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