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Shortest price to let you down

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by cityhull, Dec 19, 2014.

  1. cityhull

    cityhull Well-Known Member

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    Had a bet this week on the football:

    Trazanspor 1/3
    Everton 4/9
    Bayern 1/12
    Chelsea 1/2
    Madrid 1/12
    Olympiakos 1/10
    Juventus 2/5
    Napoli 4/11
    Bacelona 1/50
    PSG 1/4
    Bilbao 1/4
    Athletico 1/33

    10/1 accumulator let down by Althletico at 1/33 who led twice. Now I know people will say why back them at them odds but it was just a bit of interest for the week.

    My question is has anyone being let down by a horse, team ect at shorter odds?
     
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  2. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Not personally, but some of those "in running" bets where horses were matched at 1.001 or whatever have been reported in the past ...................
     
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  3. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    For me it's an odds on shot that 12 odds on shots won't all win. But if I had laid that bet I would have been sweating. Unlucky CH
     
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  4. Cyclonic

    Cyclonic Well Hung Member

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    I fell out of bed and belted my coxic, odds on I won't do that again.
     
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  5. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    A good friend of mine (football stat mad) had a £50 5 team accumulator back in 2010

    The 1st 4 had won (all short prices, and he needed the last one for £480 back)
    The team he was waiting on was Angola to beat Mali (Angola were 4/6) in the opening game of the Africa Cup of Nations and were 4-0 up with 10 mins to go and 1/1000 on the exchanges.

    Then this happened
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/8450491.stm



    Obviously he was extremely gutted, but when he read this http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2010/01/stupid-punter-loses-4000-trying-to-win-44/ it didn't seem so bad!!
     
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  6. Cyclonic

    Cyclonic Well Hung Member

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    Just to get off the track for a moment, a nice bet was collected by a bunch of country lads from a town called Tamworth. Nine years ago the lads spotted a 15 year bowler in woop woop country and thought him worth a punt. I don't know why they ended up in England just after that, but they took the opportunity to claim 500-1 about the lad going on to play for Australia before he turned 30. Each of them had a $100 on the boy. They had to wait nine years, but the kid, now a strapping young fast bowler called Josh Hazlewood, made his debut in the second test in Brisbane against India. Each punter picked up a handy $50,000. Hazelwood took 5 wickets in his first innings of cricket.
     
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  7. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    In the days before it was all computerised, I used to have to trawl through the football coupons to settle them. The first thing I did on Saturday was look at the results for the odds-on bankers because there was always at least one that had drawn or perhaps lost; and that would feature in half the accumulators that had been placed. In those days, punters had to do a minimum of five selections if they included a home win, so when Arsenal, Liverpool or Man United had not won at home it took five minutes to go through fifty or so coupons.

    I think I am right in saying that those Spanish matches were the second legs of cup ties. I would never touch those because where the big name team is already winning from the first leg, they will turn out the second team as their domestic cup competition does not have the kudos of the FA Cup and they would rather concentrate on La Liga and their European ambitions.

    If I was looking for a 10/1 bet, I would look for away teams or draws. It is quite possible to do a mixture of homes and aways on a Saturday coupon and get 10/1 – I did Rochdale, Swindon and Newport last week. I never do odds-on less than about 8/13 and I mostly avoid odds-on away teams.

    If you are looking for some home wins on the Saturday coupon at the moment, you should start with League Two matches, where the home win has a strike rate of 48 per cent – with nearly half the matches won by the home team all you have to decide is which ones.


    Cyc, you mentioned a recent cricket result where the punters had to wait a while for a young player. Back in 1981, some shrewd punters made a killing on the Headingley Test match when some beefy English guy rescued the home team (with some unheralded assistance from Bob Willis). The shrewd punters were your countrymen, on England at 500/1.
     
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  8. NassauBoard

    NassauBoard Well-Known Member

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    Gillingham this weekend surely is one you have to put in. Given that my clubs top goalscorer is out injured
     
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  9. TopClass

    TopClass Well-Known Member

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    1/50 and 1/33 simply don't add enough to your returns to even make it worthwhile.
     
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  10. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Yep, you can make more on the stock market in a couple of hours with far less risk of losing the lot
     
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  11. Bluesky9

    Bluesky9 Philosopher

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    I have missed out on an odd 5 timer to a 8-13 or 4-11 shot before but never to much money.

    As I like to play around with accumulators however I have missed out on some huge pay outs by the smallest of margins

    This is the one that stands out for me, I think this was for £68k, four previous winners at big prices in trebles, fourfolds and an each way accumulator.

    If you can watch the video maybe you can answer the question I asked myself for about a week after.

    If Hughsie had not taken that deliberate pull when everything else started pushing would he have got there in time on Eland Ally?

    http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/...48/goffs-dbs-st-leger-carnival-sales-handicap
     
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  12. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    I think it was a couple of years ago, my memory isn't great when it comes to racing but Boston Bob fell at the last fence or penultimate fence at Cheltenham festival whilst seemingly going well. It was the first horse in my accumulator so it never got going, I was a bit disappointed but not too bothered until that is the other 6 horses I had in the bet went on to win. Payout would have been £86k from £2 stake!
     
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  13. Dexter

    Dexter Well-Known Member

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    The Copa Del Rey is huge...bigger than the FA Cup here to sides over there.

    You won't get any sides opting out,like manu did,or delighting in defeat like a lot of bottom half Premier League sides have done in recent years.

    It is the only Cup competition,no League Cup or equivalent exists.

    Atlético (please guys,there is no Athletico,merely the afore mentioned and Athletic Bilbao) was effectively playing a bunch of part timers and should have had enough given their side was playing to impress DS...not to be and I really don't see what a 1/33 shot adds to any bet.

    Football is essentially a two horse race with three very possible results..most punters are mugs and rarely factor a draw into any roll up.

    I generally do footy singles,the odd double and maximum trebles.

    Value exists with some layers such as Manu (13/5) v Arsenal with all bets refunded if match drawn..since Arsenal have managed one win in their last sixteen matches with manu,that was a steal.
     
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  14. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    I will take your word for it, Dexter, that the Copa Del Rey is huge in Spain; however, in a two-legged tie, why are the top teams going to risk injuries to their big star names against third-tier club teams when they already have a massive lead from the first leg? I had never even heard of some of the sides that were playing the likes of Barcelona and Atletico Madrid – one of them sounded like the local hospital side.

    From a betting point of view, I have always considered football (especially the domestic leagues) as a three horse race because of the draw option. If you look at the English scene at the moment York City have drawn 10 of their 20 games to date; Oldham have drawn 9 from 20; Sheffield Wednesday have drawn 10 from 21, Nottingham Forest, Brighton and Rotherham have drawn 9 from 21 whilst Charlton Athletic have drawn 12 from 21; and Sunderland have drawn 10 from 16.
     
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  15. Dexter

    Dexter Well-Known Member

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    Quite so QM and I doubt whether anyone in Spain has ever heard of Blyth Spartans.

    Like you,I consider the draw a very valid variable but most of the numpties doing multiple team roll ups don't,as you no doubt know from your experience in the betting office environment.

    It must be a huge boon for the shops...In your experience does it clear more than L15 and horsey multiples overall in a measurable period of time?..even if one lucky punter unwittingly strikes lucky.

    From what I have witnessed lately,the shops are very keen to promote their fixed odds soccer coupons ahead of anything else.
     
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  16. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    Football betting is much more profitable than horseracing (no Levy for starters), so they obviously want young punters involved.
     
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