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Opinions on Rodgers

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Garharsam, Dec 18, 2014.

  1. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Teams get injuries, UNited have a large list of injuries and sit in 3rd.
     
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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget that Klopp works on a limited budget.

    A lot of the players he signed are relative unknowns but are quality. He does not spend over £100m in one transfer window.
     
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    Exactly. Klopp didn't have the ability to spend over £100m on proven quality, nor did he have the wage budget to accommodate someone like Falcao.

    I'm not saying he's the answer to our problems, he may well not be, but I'm damn sure I'd rather have him in charge than Rodgers.
     
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  4. UnitedinRed

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    Injuries?

    I laugh in the face of injuries.
     
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  5. Livtor

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    Opinion? He likes to build planes while flying. That's no way to build a plane.
     
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  6. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    So did Moyes<whistle>

    Regardless of spend, it's the team you have, and he had a better team than Liverpool when Dortmund made CL final.
    My point is, managers can look great with certain players at their disposal, and not so great when they are gone, Klopp and Rodgers are suffering from that.

    The fact Rodgers blew 100m is neither here nor there when talking managing the team and getting tactics right. Plus Klopp, do we know how he is with transfers?
     
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  7. Diver-rat

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    Rodgers incompetence is hidden by the fact that many teams around us are failing to capitalise on the position. As the season wears on we will see a gap open between mid/ lower table and teams competing for top four. My worry is with Rodgers is that making the same mistakes week after week we will be in the relegation zone by April. Thank good injuries to Lovren and Johnson have happened as it means he has to change things.
     
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  8. Ignoring the fact that he's recently started to change things around after admitting things aren't working. Only time will tell us how far he is willing to change but deserves time to rectify the situation. No matter how much you, I or any other nobody moans, Brod will be here for the duration of the season.
     
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  9. Diver-rat

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    Sadly I think this is correct. FSG will use the summer to change things. Another season of mid table mediocrity and no CL football again. No CL means mediocre signings......again. ..
     
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  10. If we somehow get CL football then Brod stays and unless the committee situation changes we continue to sign mediocrity regardless <laugh>

    Personally, I hope Brod does turn it around and stays. Despite his bullshit, annoying decisions and poor transfer activity, I quite like him as manager for some reason <grr>
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    We will not be near relegation zone in April, you can forget that stuff
     
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  12. Diver-rat

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    If not, only because teams below us continue to perform so badly not because we perform well. Unless of course Studge makes an appearance. ...and an impact or we sign a 20 goal per season striker in January (which I cant see happening)
     
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  13. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Everyone is talking about the transfer committee but remember we were close to signing Willian, Henri Ryan, Costa, Sanchez... had we got 1 or 2 of them we'd be bleating about how great they are!

    It's almost like they set their sights on targets and when they didn't materialise, panicked and instead of having a 2nd option that was close to being in that class took 2 steps down and went for player that they knew wouldn't reject us instead of continuing to be ambitious.

    I'm just hoping that if we don't get CL this year we go back to the type of player we were targeting before this summer like Henri Ryan, Costa, the Ukrainian guy that seemed a good player.
     
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  14. I've made it quite clear I don't believe in blaming the committee. Brod has the final say so the blame is with him. If he didn't like the players we signed he should have said no. If he was being pushed into a corner he should have done something about it, maybe even walked.

    IMO, we missed out on those players because of the clubs wage structure.
     
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  15. Diver-rat

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    But we seem to blast it round the transfer market weeks before anyone else only to see them go to rivals. Whatever happened to doing business behind closed doors.
     
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  16. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Possibly and if true it's a tricky one. Brake a wage structure to sign a player knowing it then leads the way for those within the club to possibly seek more money.. or stick to your principles knowing that you may well miss out on a few targets.

    We'd all like to get the players we want, but the overall health of the club has to come first in that case.

    And all the talk about our signings not being good enough, I honestly think out of all of them, Lovren is the only one that has been a major disappointment (and probably Balotelli).

    All the rest sort of make sense. A young quick LB to compete with Enrique and a young quick RB to replace/compete with Johnson.

    A solid young CM with lots of experience in Can. A player that scored over 10 goals and created many chances in the Prem last year who is in his prime in Lallana.

    And a young quick qide forward with huge potential in Markovic.

    Problem has been that they've either all been thrown in together at the start of the season so haven't had time to slowly integrate, or they've not played at all. I honestly think, Markovic, Can, Moreno, Lallana will be very good players for us in the next couple of years.
     
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  17. Agree with just about all of that. Only one word I don't agree with; "probably" ;)
     
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  18. Diver-rat

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    Dont disagree but we also need Studge and one other pacey striker eg Bony and that would strike fear into most defences. Add Ford, Sterling and possibly Ibe too. Just sort out leaking goals and have a manager with tactical awareness!
     
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  19. Sharpe*

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    I feel I am repeating myself tbh.

    Rodgers biggest problem is he has wasted a hell of a lot of money - literally hundreds of millions.

    From last year we should have invested wisely in 3 or 4 quality players and continued to build.

    He's gambled on hot prospects and squad players - most of whom have shown they either cannot cut/ cannot justify their transfer or are still young and learning and not ready to really hammer the league.

    He's ultimately failed to improve the quality of the first team and as a result we've gone backwards.

    There are a number of other factors such as his wild, stubborn team selections, poor managing of players and the absolute waffle he comes out with - he must think we're all stupid!

    Others surrounding the club - such as Ian Ayre's failure to pin down top players and exceptionally poor record as a negotiator contribute, as does FSG's wage structure.

    Ultimately a lot is wrong but its all being highlighted due to the summer transfer failings which is backing Rodgers into a corner as the team are not performing/ are not actually good enough - and at the moment he hasn't got any answers and is instead digging a hole.

    He made one small step yesterday. Its a case of one more this weekend if we are to even consider a return to form for him.
     
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  20. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    One of those would be enough justification to sack him. When you add all up then there is an inevitable conclusion.

    People at the very top have to live and die by their decisions. Rodgers' s have been unacceptable. Some guys in Sicily are now already polishing their Lugers on the club's instructions <whistle>
     
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