I've just read a article about Chelsea giving Hazard a new deal making him the clubs highest earner on £200k per week. Thought you'd have bigger earners than that TBH.
=== A good way to look at it, the power is now with the players at EVERY stage of contract negotiations, but if he is that good and important to the club he will be given the money. The problem is that compared to Suarez/Ronaldo etc, he is not yet a global superstar brand. So does he attract additional revenue through shirts and sponsorship etc? No doubt he is a talent....but not worth stupid money and as time ticks away his resale value drops.
I agree that power is with the player but only at the very top level. If you moved away from the very best player around (for that club) then the players are able to hold the clubs to ransom in the same way. Obviously, the player level alters depending on the club in question. Chelsea wouldn't be held to ransom for a player like Cleverley but a League One or Two club would.
But I would imagine a player at each club has more power than the club. United wanted shot of Cleverly, he opted for a loan and to keep picking up his wages from his united level
It depends IMO If a player is a star performer he will hold you to ransom... Jermaine beckford did for Leeds for example Clubs know the score so they are quite fine anyway..... They amortise fees over time and frankly can sell up with 2 years to go and it's a case that most players cannot afford to mug off a club with 2 years left. Any club who let's a player get down to one year left must really really want to retain or are badly run. No player can afford to sit on their ass for 2 years As they will end up nowhere in the end. Players have power to push for as much as they can but only those who can't be replaced. An aguero can push people around but sterling? He can go so far but somehow I doubt the queue will be all that long to give him 150k
Yes but his career longer term could be pants as a result. You have to find the right move long term and that might not have the same wages Look at Stephen Ireland? He f'd himself If you over pay the top guy like Rooney then the rest want more so you end up with a few that when it comes time to move them they will sit Borini is a fine example of a guy on far too much money
It'll be a while before his value drops unless his performances fizzle out like Nando's. As you say, he's not yet achieved global brand status - he needs to keep performing at his current level for another couple of seasons then, at 22, he'll be moving into his prime and will be hot property. I think he'll need to show that he can keep at that level consistently before the likes of Real are ready to throw stupid money in our direction. There's not much motivation for them to go nurturing potential when they can buy the finished article almost on a whim.
Nando was nowhere near as good as Sterling at 20 years old, in fact, apart from Nando's great season with us, he's never hit that level before or after. I call it the Lovren effect
How long does he have on his current contract? Do you really think any club would liet a player of Sterlings quality rot/sit on the bench for two years or that he would not keep putting in a shift while running his contract down? As Liverpool paid almost nothing for Sterling they would only stand to lose the cost of wages over his time at Liverpool....which his contributions to league positions would have offset already. If he is motivated enough by the big payday he may decide to sit it out at Liverpool for two years, play out of his skin and look for the mega deal. Liverpool could well be the club to offer the mega deal/big money move and if not, I am sure he could get a big offer from in the PL or overseas. But if I am being sensible here for one minute I dont see him as they type to go for Spanish lessons and no doubt he will remain at Liverpool.. But it is alwasy nice to speculate while wasting time at work
He might not have been getting as many goals but El Nino was a world wide known player at nineteen, he was a star player at A.Madrid and was made captain around 20-21yrs old too
Given he's only 20, still has a huge amount to learn and is still inconsistent, it would be foolish to look for a move right now. I think how we've improved him as a player since he was 16 is something he should be willing to show a bit of gratitude for rather than trying to fleece the club of silly money. 70k is a shed load of money and 14+ years left at the top, he's got time on his side. If he's refusing our offers, he's being greedy or angling for a move. The first annoys me more than the second.
I don't know which but if I were in his position I'd want to maximise my return even if I did have 14 years left Is also be thinking as a pace man i would only have til 26/27 at the very top so 4 year is more than enough but I'd me bad to go to a city or Chelsea yet as there's far far too many example of guys spat out by them Liverpool is a decent level to be at at 20, might even get a medal which is more than bale ever got... Bale is a good example to the lad, another pace player
I'm certain that, in the majority of cases, this has more to do with agents bending their ear than the players themselves.
And Sterling wasn't at 19? He's also our star performer too, which says a lot about the rest of the c**ts in our squad that a just turned 20 year old carries the team. Anyone making a 21 year old captain is not the full shilling or up to something*unless it's a very young side), and that's without ever getting into the 'Torres is not captain material debate' Captains that lead by example, are not captains. Actual leadership is required, you have to be able to kick the others up the arse when needed and rally the team, be tactically aware too. I hate the **** but Keane was a proper captain.
I think the Torres and Sterling situations are very similar. Agree about the Keane point too, always maintain that Carragher was out true captain whilst Gerrard wore the armband.
Sterling was valued last season as one of the worlds top 20 players at £31-36m. Given what we paid for dross over the summer safe to say his value is double that!
Yes. We all think as fans of gratitude and of loyalty etc.but remember that the agents are constantly bending the players ears. If the player is not already thinking: playing for a club that will win trophies, maximising exposure for endorsements (publicity/media ads etc) optimising career earnings in a short risky period (injuries etc can occur at any time etc). The key question is how desperate the club is to retain him. If he was playing at Madrid, he would not necessarily agitate for a move and not hold the club to ransom. He is at a club where he IS the main and only star player. So it is reasonable IMO to pay him more than everyone else including balotelli coutinho etc. reminds me a bit of the Rooney situation where he asked a huge amount at a critical period and the club felt compelled to give it to him. Will the team carry on to challenge without him? Will the money saved and gained from any transfer fee buy as good or a better player ( or players ). If the answers are yes, the club will tell him to get stuffed and offer him the 70k and no more and look to maximise his transfer fee. If the answer is no then they'll bend in front of his agents with their pants down.
For us to replace him about £40 million. His real value about £20 million. I am a fan but I do believe he is somewhat overrated and would massively flop at the likes of Real. He's nowhere near that level. He'd be a fool to leave here where he can truly prosper as a valued member of the team.
