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How 'badly' are we doing.......

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by pierredelafranchesca, Dec 17, 2014.

  1. pierredelafranchesca

    pierredelafranchesca Well-Known Member

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    General consensus....we aren't doing great, but thinking back to last year when we started brilliantly but then 2nd half of the season floundered a little, ultimately we ended up safe comfortably with our best finish ever in history. I recall last year that first half of the season we seemed to have the lower teams at home first half and top teams away, with the reverse in the second half of the season.

    So I decided to do a proper look back to last season to see how our points tally compares in the same fixtures, swapping in QPR - Fulham, Cardiff - Burnley and Leicester - Norwich

    2014/15 13/14 result - points gained / lost

    QPR away – won draw – 2 points gained
    Stoke home – draw draw – nil points
    Villa away – lost lost – nil points
    West Ham home – draw won – 2 points less
    Newcastle away – draw won – 2 points less
    Man City home – lost lost – nil points
    Palace home – won lost – 3 points gained
    Arsenal away – draw lost – 1 point gained
    Liverpool away – draw lost – 1 point gained
    Soton home – lost lost – nil points
    Burnley away – lost won – 3 points less
    Spurs home – lost draw – 1 point less
    Man u away – lost lost – nil points
    Everton away – draw lost – 1 point gained
    West Brom home – draw won – 2 points less
    Chelsea away – loss lost – nil points

    For the comparative fixtures, I make us only 2 points down on last year's total, which isn't too big an issue or challenge to overcome and looking at who we still have to play at home - we still have 6 of the other teams in the bottom half to play, i'm starting to get some high hopes about our overall chances of finishing comfortably again this year. So here's hoping that come the end of this season we're talking about a **** first half and amazing second half of the season :D
     
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  2. renegadetiger

    renegadetiger Well-Known Member

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    I think we'll have a much better idea of how good or bad we are doing after the next 4 or 5 games are done and dusted. Crucial few weeks coming up.
     
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  3. NorthFerribyTiger

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    Our worst start to a season in the Premiership. but we've not really had too many of them, we really need to turn things round quickly though or we will be a Championship team next season
     
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  4. PLT

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    The next 3 are huge. I know Bruce has mentioned 6 points. I'm just hoping we win at least one myself. If we don't win one of those three then we're really in the ****.
     
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  5. ollyhcafc

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    wouldn't be the end of the world if we could hold onto the squad we have now, think we'd bounce straight back up comfortably. But i think we'll stay up comfortably
     
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  6. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Half of them would be gone.

    Chezzy, Davies, Huddlestone, Brady, Robbo, Jelly, Dawson, Diame and Elmo would all have plenty of suitors.
     
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  7. lewisc29

    lewisc29 Idiot

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    A win and a draw would be a very good return for me.
     
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  8. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Every relegated team always thinks that.
     
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  9. Der Alte

    Der Alte Well-Known Member

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    Slightly OT here but I was looking at the Southampton board a few weeks back and there was a huge amount of optimism about European places - when I compared their results and position it was very similar to our start in 2008/09. Now they're on a poor run it's interesting to note that they have exactly the same points tally that we had (but are one place higher in the league) at this point in the season. We managed to hang on by the skin of our teeth on the last day of the season. Two of the relegation places were occupied by Blackburn and Sunderland who both ended up above us in the table and the two teams who were eventually relegated along with WBA were in 17th place (Newcastle) and 12th (Middlesborough). All of this proves little but it does show that league positions are volatile and it really is too early to go on suicide watch.
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    These comparisons tell us nothing, we're playing teams with different players and in some cases completely different teams, all that matters is how we perform this season, against the teams we play this season and currently, we're falling short.
     
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  11. armchairfan

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    I have never ever thought of European places, only a few people here probably ever have.
     
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  12. johnbo

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    We must improve the results we all know that and i agree the next four games three of which are at home are massive
     
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  13. ThaiCanary

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    erm yes, we did, and we are ****e this season <wah>
     
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  14. ImperialTiger

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    Get Bryan Gunn back in. He'll sort you out (you don't play Colchester in the championship, right?).
     
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  15. BOJACKHCAFCMAN

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    Bruce has made another mistake saying this I think as in the next 13 matches we only have one that is unwinnable (Man City), but there is every possibility we might not take 6 points from these games as we are finding our way back to form. That's not to say we can't win a load of games after that. I hate it when the vocal minority or poodles or whatever get an excuse to pick on the manager as it doesn't help things at all and I think him saying that was a little bit misguided and adding a bit of unnecessary presssure to these games
    (edited this as it was Man City I meant)
     
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  16. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    I agree, bit of a stupid thing to say wasn't it...

    My expectations have been set now by Steve Bruce himself and I won't be content at anything less.
     
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  17. Lewis92

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    Will we ****.
     
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  18. King Curtis

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    <steam>.
     
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  19. Spinach

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    Double post
     
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  20. Spinach

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    Disgrace that some people have this mentality of. 'Let's get relegated, who cares, it's a guarantee we will get promoted again'

    Make as many excuses as you want but 4 league wins in the entirety of 2014 is beyond terrible.
     
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