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Bring back Boruc!

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by tomw24, Dec 8, 2014.

  1. Redboyce

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    I must say in recent weeks he has been very poor. Even the Barnsley goal he committed himself too early and as he has little agility because he is so big, another weak goal goes in. This hesitancy in coming out stems from the game he came,stopped and then dashed out the box and didn't get the ball, hence giving away his first of many soft goals we have conceded in the last month. I am sure he is a good keeper but he needs to grit his teeth, and sort his decision making out. This run of poor results is mainly down to him. Sorry Fors.
     
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  2. ChilcoSaint

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    Even though only one of the goals we conceded, the goal against Villa, was mostly his fault, and not the defence or midfield giving the ball away in dangerous positions? True, he might have stopped Barnes' goal on Saturday, but it wasn't really his fault Barnes had the one-on-one shot, was it? The main reason for our bad run of form is that we can't score at the moment, not the goalkeeper.
     
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  3. Sotonist

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    Before the bad form set in the main reason we were on good form was seen as the defence though.

    The attack stopped scoring before the form dipped.

    Not blaming fraser for it mind. I thought he looked a bit ropey before the form went bad.
     
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  4. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    The main reason is the failure to score...our defence is still one of the best. We have several players who can score, but we lack a lethal striker who could get the majority of goals.
     
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  5. Jose Fonte baby

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    The opposition gets very few opportunities because of our defence, but the ones they get tend to go in as most tend to be in the corner.
     
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  6. fatletiss

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    Which would have been excellent, but c'est la vie. Not many of the top, top sides have that luxury.
     
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  7. fatletiss

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    You can't blame him for the Burnley goal (not Barnsley - although by the sounds of it, some of you probably think he is at fault for any goals they get too :)). It was deflected past him. He made a big mistake against Villa, but hasn't been the fault for other goals on his own. The Utd second was a combination of him maybe not coming for the cross and the defense leaving two players unmarked at the far post.

    I am getting so pissed off with the perfectionists amongst our fans. A bloke shot to the right, the keeper dived and the ball deflected the other way. What the hell can he do there? If it had not deflected and had beaten him on the other side, with him waiting before diving, you would be posting that he isn't very agile as he's big and didn't get down in time... oh, you already did!

    It drives me mad to read that our run of poor results is down to him. f**ing ridiculous statement. The forwards have missed chance after chance after chance and our poor form is down to the keeper making one and a half mistakes.

    *forgive my language, but I find it maddening.
     
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  8. laurab12

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    Nope but saints could have but not to be so that is that
     
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  9. fatletiss

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    Do you think he's stay with The Cherries if they won promotion?
     
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  10. Clem Fandango

    Clem Fandango Well-Known Member

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    Nonsense.
     
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  11. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    By the time you get to the keeper, others have failed to do their job. Sure a superb or lucky keeper could have got us some points....remember that is what Forster nearly did against Arsenal, but our run of bad results is not down solely to Forster.
     
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  12. AL.

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    Spot on FLT, and I can understand your language, because how fickle some of us are. Last week remember, everyone was saying how brilliant he was at Arsenal - he was man of the match for christ sake. The goal on Saturday was very fortunate. It was a dreadful shot which took a wicked deflection. The problem is that our forwards are not shooting enough, and to blame the keeper is simply the easy option as he is the last line of defence. He isn't playing out of skin at the moment, only De Gea seems to be doing that, but he's hardly a calamity. We still have the joint best defence in the league, and the most clean sheets.
     
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  13. Sotonist

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    it looks like he's realistic enough to know he can't get both champions league football and a decent level of domestic football, so for his international chances it would be a sound choice for him.

    someone elsewhere reckons he's gearing up to go back to legia but the boruc ITK brigade dismissed that last time I checked.

    looking forward to LB's response on this.
     
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  14. laurab12

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    Be shocked if he went back to legia but know his wife now spends a lot of time back in Poland so maybe that could be a draw for legia it wasn't little while ago but honestly don't see a legia move for a good few years yet.

    If cherries go up that be easy option for epl football but he isn't known for taking easy route
     
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  15. Sotonist

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    His last two moves have been to clubs with noticeably inferior competition. Recent evidence is lacking in this respect.

    Celtic and Fiorentina, granted.
     
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  16. laurab12

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    His last move was due to not being allowed to compete for his position
     
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  17. Sotonist

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    to somewhere he didn't have to compete. not saying it proves he is taking the easy way just that there's little contemporary proof of him doing anything other than guaranteeing first team football for himself.
     
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  18. laurab12

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    He moved where him and his agent found a club close by to keep his family in one place and saints would allow him to go.

    He wasn't automatic choice at celtic or fiorentina at start or southampton. Adkins didn't think he needed a keeper, cortèse did
     
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  19. Sotonist

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    boruc wasn't an automatic choice at the start here because he wasn't fit and then because he threw a bottle at the crowd.

    otherwise, adkins surely had no choice.

    he hasn't really had a challenge since fiorentina, except overcoming himself.
     
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  20. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

    I Sorry I Ruined The Party Well-Known Member

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    He has to come out and get that ball, IMO. He should be organizing the defense and asking for far post help if he needs it, but he didn't. In positioning the defense there should have been a player to cover that angled ball and there was... it was him. He just screwed it up. I mean, even if there HAD been a player at the back post Forster should have come out and claimed it anyway.

    That said, I agree with your larger point. You could say he cost us two goals against Man U and Villa. But he probably stole two goals from Arsenal so it evens out.

    I'm still not convinced Forster is a great GK, but he's at least average and is not the reason for our recent troubles.
     
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