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OT - The National College Of Wind Energy....

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Dec 11, 2014.

  1. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    "..For renewable sources we need to develop tidal power as the tides are guaranteed..." But unfortunately it doesn't work due to mechanical inefficiencies. I agree about Nuclear though.
     
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  2. TigerRoo

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    Have you guys got "Smart Meters" yet?
     
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  3. captain caveman

    captain caveman Well-Known Member

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    "Wind power exceeds nuclear output (for a few minutes)

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    It only has symbolic significance, but at half past nine this morning wind was supplying more electricity to the national grid than nuclear.(1) For a few minutes, the gusts over the western side of the United Kingdom supplied more than 6 gigawatts and a temporary slight dip in nuclear output meant that wind was more important for electricity supply than the UK's ageing nuclear fleet. The new record came a few hours after news stories about new cracks in the graphite blocks of one of the reactor at EdF's Hunsterston plant. We'll see more and more days when wind power beats the geriatric nuclear fleet. A couple of other features of electricity supply over the past 24 hours are worth mention. At 4am this morning, the price of power (as indicated by the sell price in the 'balancing market' that keeps electricity supply and demand in balance) fell to a low of just over £1 per megawatt hour. They were basically giving the stuff away. Even at this time of the morning electricity generally sells for thirty times this amount. The high volumes of wind-generated electricity caused substantial disruption to the working of the power market for a few hours.

    At almost the same time, we saw the interconnector between France and England change the direction of flow. Normally France pumps almost two gigawatts into the UK. For a few hours the UK exported power instead and the interconnector took 2 gigawatts to France. It's difficult for outsiders to be sure of this but the National Grid appeared to also curtail (shut down) a large fraction of UK wind supply.

    These related events matter more than the symbolic event that happened at half past nine. They show just how challenging the future of electricity supply is going to be and how urgently action is needed. Yes, the France interconnector took the temporary surplus off to the European grid early this morning for an hour or so. But the operators of the Grid needed to use almost the full capacity of the interconnector. As wind power grows, Atlantic storms risk becoming much more difficult to manage.

    We need more interconnectors, more storage and, please, a way of converting surplus electricity into other usable fuels such as gas. Otherwise all that wind power investment is going to be largely wasted in the winter months"

    http://www.carboncommentary.com/blog/2014/10/06/wind-power-exceeds-nuclear-output-for-a-few-minutes
     
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  4. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    No but I can sell you one, multifunction, MID approved and 2 channel to fully comply with L2 and L1 building regs. Any good to you?
     
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  5. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    I never said the technology is were it should be, I said it needs to keep up with turbine energy technology, which it isn't, I would agree; but nothing stands still for long.

    Edit: Just re-read and I think you are confusing the fact that a battery is one form of an accumulator, whereas an accumulator may be called a battery, but it can be and is other things. I was not advocating UPS technology as a current solution, I was saying that the technology needs to keep apace with generation.
     
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  6. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    This is the nature of accumulation and also of energy conversion, which can be reversed when needed; there will be losses to other 'energy leaks', but technology will respond as it always has.

    It would be a folly to rely on one (nuclear?) energy generator, as geographic and climatic characteristics are so varied it is sensible to have a varied and flexible response. The huge improvements in cable technology and it's use also mean energy sharing is becoming a bigger deal.
     
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  7. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    Yes, TigerRoo, we have had them for quite some time on a private, if-you-want-to-pay-them basis or compulsory to access some forms of grant funding (when available). British Gas are committed to rolling them out to all of their customers by 2020.
     
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  8. Fez

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    That's a decent article, which pretty much backs up my points that the methodology is currently working, but the technologies are not quite in sync and that must (and will) change; there is a great deal going on.
     
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  9. TigerRoo

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    No thanks mate.

    I have an exemption (temporary) as evidence from the US of A confirms that whereas they may be safe for people in good health they are not safe for people who suffer from Asthma, Migraines and AF (heart palpitations) I suffer from the latter. This does not stop the State Government from allowing my Electricity supplier to charge me for one even though I don't have one. The system is a shambles and has been seriously under-budgeted. Many States in the US of A are canceling the roll-out and installing analogue meters owing to huge insurance claims from customers suffering ill-health through these meters. They tried to instal these meters by stealth and thousands have had them installed under the misunderstanding that they were 'compulsory' - they are not.

    This is on my front door!


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