Stop using so many 'dohs', it's unbecoming. You will be the first to bitch about cronyism and corrupt Government - yet you want to protect the Government from private individuals being able to take it to court if they sense such cronyism? Our business works in the US - the amount of barriers they put up to protect their local casino markets (owned by billionaires), it's absolute filth - every politician is getting paid off somewhere - it's not democracy and it certainly isn't a free market.
We're ****ed enough as it is by the same people avoiding paying their fair share of tax, then you want them to allow them to sue us because we're not letting them get their way? The US has ****ed up food regulations, I don't want them to be able to sneak OGM ****e into my food, and especially not allow them to sue us because we're not letting them do it. Stop typing so much pish and I'll stop using s You call everyone a hippy lefty as soon as they disagree with you, same ****.
This is being subverted, the thread was about how protesters are wholly stupid and how career criminals shouldn't take liberties wi' the NYPD unless they're wanting choked deid.
What you maybe fail to recognise is we both want the same thing (a better society for everyone) - we probably agree that a lot of the system is fixed and monopolised - only you think that Government is the solution to this, whereas I think the Government is the worst offender at breaking it (for instance how many Tories will have their fingers in the companies which the NHS contract to?). You can argue that all we need is a noble Government - I'll argue that we're unlikely to get that, and a better solution is a weaker Government which doesn't have the power to hand out favours to its buddies all over the place.
No you don't, you want society to allow you to become richer, as most of your views are self-centred and all relate to cash. I'm not some ****ed up tree-hugging idealist, there are plenty of simple changes we could make to the world we live in without breaking everything. I trust government more than corporations to do it, as we elect them and at least have a small amount of choice. You trust some of the most selfish and heartless people around (the people that rise to the top in business), to care about people? Give it a break.
“Say I’m in a collectivist society and I want to save an endangered species; I want to save the heron. I have to persuade people in charge of the government to give me money to do it. I have only one place I can go; and with all the bureaucratic red tape that would envelop me, the heron would be dead long before I ever saw a dollar, if I ever did. In a free-enterprise capitalist society, all I have to do is find one crazy millionaire who’s willing to put up some dough and, by God, I can save the heron.” – Milton Friedman Friedman also made the point that the only reason Marxism was able to get off the ground was that it was highly funded by rich businessman Engels - the irony being that in a completely equal society Marxism as a well promoted creed could not have developed as no one but the incumbent Government would have the resources to develop it.
Toby thinks the world would be like that old Coke advert, where every **** is holding hands on a hilltop, if there was no capitalism or self-improvement.
London Black Revs: the radical black and Asian group Fed up with the 'lack of militancy' of political organisations, they now plan to target police brutality, institutional racism and unfair evictions. They are, they say, "a modest organisation, but highly effective for our size. We're not going anywhere, and we'll keep going. Most of us have nothing anyway, so what have we got to lose? We're prepared to do anything it takes." The London Black Revs (short for "revolutionaries") told Vice reporter Simon Childs that it would consider acting against "every organisation planning to put homeless spikes up", recommending instead they "give the money to a local shelter organisation, food kitchen, or food bank". Describing itself as a "closed black and Asian revolutionary socialist group", LBR says its members are "young, black, very political" and fed up with the "lack of militancy" displayed by most political organisations. The group, which numbers around 20 members, but says it is "growing fast" and aims to launch a major recruitment campaign in sixth-form colleges this autumn, has in recent weeks used leaked details of a UK Border Agency campaign against illegal immigrants to warn as many as it can that they are at risk of arrest and deportation. Asked why LBR made a point of calling itself a black and Asian organisation, the spokesman said the group "values its political allies", but has to start from "the basis of the makeup of our group. We can't aim to speak for people outside of our race or social experience."
