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Yankee_Jack said:
Actually, Jazz was far more composed on the ball, passed better and was more solid in the tackle than Rangel.
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not on your life was he composed, he was bricking it every time he got the ball and gave it away more times than not. He is not a high standard premiership player and neither is Bartley in a month of Sundays but that's all we have. They are just not good enough against bigger sides and we need better. .We were a mess and unrecognisable from other games because we played players not up to the standard and that includes Leon...
 
monks hero's said:
not on your life was he composed, he was bricking it every time he got the ball and gave it away more times than not. He is not a high standard premiership player and neither is Bartley in a month of Sundays but that's all we have. They are just not good enough against bigger sides and we need better. .We were a mess and unrecognisable from other games because we played players not up to the standard and that includes Leon...
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Try watching the correct game.
 
monks hero's said:
try being realistic and take them blinkers off.....read the game report in various papers and they all say the same thing..sorry for again putting you right like <ok>
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Don't need a game report. I trust my own eyes since I was at the game sitting high and right behind the goal at the Bobby Moore end. I could see exactly what Jazz and Rangel were doing or not doing as the case may be.

And reporters can barely write most of the time, who says that what they write has any value.
 
Ignore him Yankee, when Dai is at games, the armchair fans don't know what they are talking about, and now he is an armchair fan, those who go to the game don't know what they are talking about lol

As for whoever asked why it wasn't an own goal, Carrolls header was on target, Leon did get the last touch but not in an own goal sense, more of a trying to get in the way sense, so its Carrolls goal, it counts more like a deflection.
 
monks hero's said:
says a fan in america <laugh>
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Any fan in America who attends any game has my utmost respect. It's one hell of an effort.

For what it's worth, I also disagree with you. Rangel played a horrible match, but Jazz played well on the whole and certainly wasn't giving it away with the same frequency and carelessness as Rangel. Leon also had a tidy match - I don't remember him being out-muscled often, if at all. I can remember him turning into trouble once from a throw-in in our own half, where their midfield read where he was going and made a good tackle. He wasn't out-muscled, he just telegraphed his movement. Apart from that, he passed the ball well and rarely lost it. If you're going to criticise a player to the point where you say he should no longer play unless absolutely required, you must back it up with statistics, insight or video analysis. Unfortunately, your word means nothing, especially with a thumbs up after it. Additionally, you can't just spout journalists' opinions, as these are the same journalists that think we'll get relegated every year and that regularly make uninformed comments on the Swans. They regularly give us a raw deal in the papers.

But back on topic, stop abusing our own fans, especially the one's living overseas who have to fork out an arm and a leg to get to one game a season. Where you live has no effect on if you're a fan and whether you're allowed to comment on the Swans. You've had one reply off me, but if I don't reply to your next post, it's not because you were 'witty' and won the argument, it's because, on the whole, I ignore you and I'm not really interested in your reply as I already know it will be reactive, defensive, and probably say something about me "knowing nothing about football". It will probably end with a thumbs up or a laughing smiley. <laugh><ok>
 
bigkidderz said:
Any fan in America who attends any game has my utmost respect. It's one hell of an effort.

For what it's worth, I also disagree with you. Rangel played a horrible match, but Jazz played well on the whole and certainly wasn't giving it away with the same frequency and carelessness as Rangel. Leon also had a tidy match - I don't remember him being out-muscled often, if at all. I can remember him turning into trouble once from a throw-in in our own half, where their midfield read where he was going and made a good tackle. He wasn't out-muscled, he just telegraphed his movement. Apart from that, he passed the ball well and rarely lost it. If you're going to criticise a player to the point where you say he should no longer play unless absolutely required, you must back it up with statistics, insight or video analysis. Unfortunately, your word means nothing, especially with a thumbs up after it. Additionally, you can't just spout journalists' opinions, as these are the same journalists that think we'll get relegated every year and that regularly make uninformed comments on the Swans. They regularly give us a raw deal in the papers.

But back on topic, stop abusing our own fans, especially the one's living overseas who have to fork out an arm and a leg to get to one game a season. Where you live has no effect on if you're a fan and whether you're allowed to comment on the Swans. You've had one reply off me, but if I don't reply to your next post, it's not because you were 'witty' and won the argument, it's because, on the whole, I ignore you and I'm not really interested in your reply as I already know it will be reactive, defensive, and probably say something about me "knowing nothing about football". It will probably end with a thumbs up or a laughing smiley. <laugh><ok>
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Some rep for that post!!!
 
bigkidderz said:
Any fan in America who attends any game has my utmost respect. It's one hell of an effort.

For what it's worth, I also disagree with you. Rangel played a horrible match, but Jazz played well on the whole and certainly wasn't giving it away with the same frequency and carelessness as Rangel. Leon also had a tidy match - I don't remember him being out-muscled often, if at all. I can remember him turning into trouble once from a throw-in in our own half, where their midfield read where he was going and made a good tackle. He wasn't out-muscled, he just telegraphed his movement. Apart from that, he passed the ball well and rarely lost it. If you're going to criticise a player to the point where you say he should no longer play unless absolutely required, you must back it up with statistics, insight or video analysis. Unfortunately, your word means nothing, especially with a thumbs up after it. Additionally, you can't just spout journalists' opinions, as these are the same journalists that think we'll get relegated every year and that regularly make uninformed comments on the Swans. They regularly give us a raw deal in the papers.

But back on topic, stop abusing our own fans, especially the one's living overseas who have to fork out an arm and a leg to get to one game a season. Where you live has no effect on if you're a fan and whether you're allowed to comment on the Swans. You've had one reply off me, but if I don't reply to your next post, it's not because you were 'witty' and won the argument, it's because, on the whole, I ignore you and I'm not really interested in your reply as I already know it will be reactive, defensive, and probably say something about me "knowing nothing about football". It will probably end with a thumbs up or a laughing smiley. <laugh><ok>
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Did you really type this all by yourself <laugh> what a waste of time that was <ok>
 
monks hero's said:
if i say your a t**t then you are a t**t..there is no debate about it..end of..<ok>
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No debate required. That was bang out of order.

Edit: 24 hour ban request gone in Dai as it was a pathetic post and uncalled for.

Lads, please don't respond to it. Thanks.

P.S. The way you've posted the past 48 hours would suggest that you Dai are the twat on here.
 
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