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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Sharpe*, Dec 9, 2014.

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Should Rodgers Remain as Manager?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. We should replace him with a rather rotund hamster

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  1. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    agree,

    we keep buying potential, and that doesn't work if you don't bring them into an environment where they can just get the experience, it has got to the point were we are expecting things from them instantly.

    we need to buy for now, don't know how many times i have fecking said that, sod for the ****ing future, this rate we wont have one! well at the top level anyway as its getting harder and harder already.
     
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  2. Gerrinho

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    Afternoon guys, not posted for a while - Just like coming and having a look at what everyone else is saying. I am worried about both scenarios to be honest. If we get rid now, it's a total rebuild and we have to reel out the usual 'where in transition' line. We've spent so much money in the past few years we are haemorrhaging it. I don't know why it's failing, but the committee is failing and needs amending/removing.

    I don't think anyone expected Balotelli to turn out to be as bad as he has, which hasn't helped but Rogers playing up front on his own is niaive and Rogers needs to address this. I think he's being stubborn and this is affecting the performances. It's nothing short of petulant as it would appear Balotelli wasn't Rogers choice, and he seems to be wanting to prove he was right not to want the player. This is unfair on the team, the player and the fans as he should accept the player is at Liverpool and should be used to his best.

    Rogers first season, he was adamant we would play a pressing dominant game, making it the "longest 90 minutes, any team has when they come to Anfield" That lasted a minimal time, with BR blaming it on not having them players to implement that style. Last season, he removed the shackles and allowed the players to play the counter attacjing game they were best at. For as long as I can remember, Liverpool have been better when playing on the counter, with strikers more than happy to play off the last defenders shoulders and pouncing.

    Rogers has again this season reverted back to a pressing game, allowing our opponents to come at us hoping we can win the ball and dominate - Well, we can't! Not with this team. We had Llalana on the bench last night when he has looked so strong in previous CL games. Markovich on the bench and I wouldn't have him in the squad let alone on the bench - Those 2 players were £45 million alone so what is BR doing?

    I can see the argument for getting rid because he is not a big enough name to attract the 'big' players to join us, he is clueless in his tactics and niaive in his substitutions.
     
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  3. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Potential replacements:

    Klopp
    Simeone
    De Boer
    Capello
     
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  4. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Would you really want Capello?
     
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  5. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Yes.

    Proven winner, success at every club he's been at. Amazing reputation and can attract players.
     
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  6. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    trouble is those look like summer potentials to me.

    so we have to grin and bear what ****e we have now until summer then, as i don't see any of them wanting to leave jan, and also depends what state we are in come summer time whether they would consider it or not.
     
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  7. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, timing could be an issue. Capello is an international coach so I think it may be easier for him to leave. As a short term solution, he could be very good.
     
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  8. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Even if we did want him I doubt any of them would come.

    We would be looking more in the Laudrup, AVB, Koeman etc bracket IMO.
     
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  9. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Distinctly average with England and Russia though. And his last club was 2007. And the football's not exactly poetry in motion (not saying it is now either, mind).
     
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  10. Enricky.

    Enricky. Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    If arsenal got rid of Wenger and say they replaced him with Klopp, would anyone actually take Wenger?
     
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  11. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Money talks, if we're prepared to spend it. I don't think we're actually that bad a prospect for a new manager; there's potential at the club if they can unleash it, we're in the Premier League, and the financial situation means they'll likely have some money (obviously not Chelsea/Madrid etc. levels, but better than most) to spend. I think we're a better prospect for a new manager than for a new player.
     
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  12. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Under-performed at the WC with England but was brilliant in the qualifiers.

    And he's won over 50% of his games for Russia which is a decent record.

    His record at domestic level is amongst the best.

    As a short term solution, he is someone who can come in and make us more solid and compact. I wouldn't want him for more than 12-18 months.
     
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  13. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    "Brilliant" seems a bit of an exaggeration. Hodgson's doing about as well with England as Capello did.

    He could make us more solid and compact. So could Clarke, Pulis and Allardyce, and they would all be cheaper.
     
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  14. Lucaaas

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    I'm not convinced to be honest. Since FSG have been here we haven't really competed at the top table for anything. We were deciding between Martinez & Rodgers in 2012. Even this summer WITH CL football we were getting players like Lallana, Markovic etc not the likes of Sanchez, Costa & Di Maria which our rivals were buying.

    FSG do not seem prepared to match the top clubs wage wise, which is fair enough, but hinders us when trying to get the highest rated people possible in.
     
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  15. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    I share your concerns, although we did negotiate a bit for Sanchez and apparently made brief enquiries about Falcao and Cavani (if you believe the papers).
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    it won't get worse <whistle>

    rodgers has had 3 years. he's failed.

    this is like a lot of other clubs and our own too.

    We are only in 5 year transitions as our structure means we throw all out with the bath water as it were. every coach and idea. We need now to get the structure right and appoint a first team coach, not a manager.


    for me if you product a 6 million pound contract there will be a queue forming rapidly. don't worry about who, worry about fsg getting it right.

    examples:

    houllier's time was up, he was getting worse and worse he was phoning it in. he was never the same after his heart issue
    rafa's time was up too. he royally f'd it with some decision.
    souncess's time was up the season after the fa cup for sure... he lasted too long.
     
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  17. UnitedinRed

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    No chance with any tbh.
     
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  18. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    This.

    Avb would be worth a punt. Hes really not that bad a manager. Basing an opinion on a managers time at chelsea or spurs is stupid really.
     
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  19. AVB...? Really...? May as well just support Spurs and cut out the middle man <doh>
     
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