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  1. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    We haven't done a spurs. It's much worse than that!

    I have no idea what has happened since that January transfer window when we acquired both Sturridge and Coutinho for modest sums but since then, everything that we have touched has turned to ratshit.

    Someone is responsible for spunking a couple of hundred million up the wall. Something isn't working at all. If I was FSG, I wouldn't allow one more penny to be spent until whoever or whatever (process) was responsible was driven out of the club.

    I don't expect any spend this winter. Frankly, I wouldn't trust anyone with the money!
     
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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    I work in recruitment and I like football... I reckon I could do a job on this committee <ok>
     
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  3. Klopp's Mannschaft

    Klopp's Mannschaft Well-Known Member

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    I don't work in recruitment and I don't work in finance. I reckon I could do a better job than the clowns at the club <ok>
     
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  4. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Well, he has some decent players at his disposal - Moreno, Manquilllo, Can, Markovic, Coutinho, Lallana.

    But no Rodgers, just pick one of the worst line ups in the history of this club. Disgraceful
     
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  5. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    They asked him about spending in Jan he talked about speaking with owners and that the summer was a big out lay. So in other words the owners aren't going to be giving him any money cause he wasted it all on average players for vast prices.
    Best look forward to more dross from this poor squad cause nobody is coming in next month and lets all hang our hopes on a striker that we expect to hit the ground running despite being out injured for 3 months.

    Cheers to Brendan for taking us backwards to 4 years ago.
     
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  6. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    It's not even that he's wasted it on average. We don't know that because the money has been spent on players he's not used. Apart from Lovren and Balotelli (who he's played alone upfront when we all know he works best in a 2).

    Moreno has been in and out as has Manquillo. Can has hardly played despite looking good when he does. Markovic and Lallana have hardly kicked a ball between them and Lambert is now only getting a go as a last resort because we have no other strikers.

    I'd like to actually see his signings get some game time before we write them all off.

    Looking at them, they may be not be world class names, but we know Lallana can perform in the PL and Balotelli despite him having his critics, can score 15 goals a season! Can, Markovic, Moreno, Manquillo have also shown promise and potential. I know they'd need to build on that and I hate the "in 2/3 years time we might have a very good team" argument as ideally we'd should be buying for now, but there is a chance that those players come good in the next couple of years.

    Balotelli and Lovren are both still young (24 and 25) so despite big money being spent and them underperforming, they could also become good players in a few years time if given the chance.

    Might be a couple of years of "rebuilding" which is shocking given where we were last year, but if 2 years of hurt puts us in a better position long term then we'll have to accept it.
     
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  7. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Can't agree with you on Lovren and Balotelli.

    Sorry its time to put the Balotelli myth to bed, 15 goals a season you be lucky. He has 66 league goals in total, in 3 years at Citeh he managed 20 league goals and 1 assist. He's never going to be a prolific striker or even a 2nd rate striker, he looked good when he was young cause he was big and strong but he's yet another young talent that will fade away in a lesser league like a Saviola.

    Lovren, just pure crap, he like Skrtel but without the fight. It going to take lots of improvement to even reach decent, which is what he'll be at his peak. Not good enough for the club. The fat we turned him down at £10m the summer before speaks volumes and the fact we had our heads (BR's head) turned by an average season with Soton, even the Soton fans were saying he was an average player before he forced his way out.

    I also don't particularly rate Lallana, does one thing good every few games and then disappears for the rest of the game. He looked good at Soton, but not so good that I would have wanted to buy him.


    Can, Markovic, Moreno, Manquillo I can see things in them that could make them good players. But we can't go on forever building, the players we buy for the future have to be balance with quality players for now. When those 4 players reach their top level are we still going to be buying future talent to play along side them, that'd just leave us where we are now.
     
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  8. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Mario Balotelli

    20 goals in 31 starts for City (21 sub appearances) between the ages of 20 and 23.
    26 goals in 37 games for Milan at the age of 24

    He's fully possibly of 15 goals a season <ok>

    Just for Comparison

    Daniel Sturridge
    13 in 31 starts for Chelsea (plus 32 sub appearances) between the ages of 20 and 23.
    8 in 11 for Bolton at age of 22
    32 in 40 for Liverpool between ages of 24 and 25

    So Balotelli has more goals for City in less starts for City compared to Sturridge at Chelsea.
    Had a bit better record with us compared to Balotelli however he was playing with Suarez for those 1 1/2 years compared to Balotelli in a struggling Milan team.
     
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  9. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    not much to add really but this reminds me of the days when N'Gog was one of the first choices up top, blunt
     
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  10. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Most of Sturridges early career he was playing as a winger or wide forward and was viewed as backup. Balotelli has been a 1st choice Centre forward since he was 17, Citeh only started using him from the bench cause they realise he wasn't good enough and could buy better. At Milan Balotelli was aldo taking all the pens and most of the freekicks, his goals were coming from dead ball situations, Sturridge did it all from open play.

    Balotelli is getting worse, his best years were at Inter and he not got any better since then.
     
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  11. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    For Mario to be effective, he needs a partner. He's never been good as a lone striker.

    Another example of how rodgers is not using the players properly.
     
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  12. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    The buck has to stop with the manager and owners. The manager for wanting the players and the owners for being fooled by some football booklet Rodgers put together!
     
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  13. He's played fifteen games, got two goals and a assist whilst playing in a struggling team. Is say he's had his chance and taken it.

    Modern society and inpatient youth for you :)
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Rubbish. Ballotelli hasn't been a first choice player since 17. He played hardly any games at inter before moving to city and he spent half his time on the bench there.

    Anyway the point was that he is capable of scoring 10 to 15 goals a season which as a second striker isn't a bad return, assuming Sturridge gets 20ish as the main man.
     
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  15. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    How many from the bench? I think Lallana has been underused this year.
     
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