1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Rank your top 5 PL managers

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Tel (they/them), Dec 9, 2014.

  1. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    After last nights result, it would appear that now officially, West Ham have had a better start to the season than Southampton, so as predicted, Koeman's not the next Fergie, at least not yet, he just had a good start.

    Looking at managers and comparing their ability is easy when you look at current form, but who out of the current 20 is the best at 'getting the job done'?

    Here's my top 5 in order:

    Jose Mourinho
    Louis Van Gaal
    Sam Allardyce
    Roberto Martinez
    Gus Poyet

    JM and LVG have won the lot, so no real need to go into depth with them for me, although you're all welcome to disagree!

    Allardyce may not be the third best manager, in terms of strategy on the pitch or attractive football but in terms of objectives, he seems to never fail, that's priceless in this league. Next season, if he has objectives of top 6/7 he may end up in trouble.

    Martinez is suspect defensively, but sets up teams to play football the right way and has had success by doing so.

    Poyet is possibly the only manager aside from Mourinho who has improved his team from last season incredibly, not just in terms of personnel. Gary Monk is another who might be in there for the same reason but he does have Bony at his disposal which is why I've gone for Poyet who's had to 'make do' for the most part.

    Special mention to Sean Dyche who I think is an actual 'breath of fresh air' in this league. Holloway wasn't, he was an idiot, Dyche is a realist with a great policy in place at Burnley and a very likeable bloke from what I've seen.

    Who's your top 5 from this league?
     
    #1
  2. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    3,567
    Likes Received:
    671
    Paul Lambert would definitely get a mention. Villa are on 19 points, half way to safety with under half the season gone and he's barely spent a penny. I'd have him in ahead of Martinez (28m on Lukaku) and Everton are bottom half.
     
    #2
  3. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    That's just form though mate, Paul Lambert has wheeled out some of the most boring, predictable football I bet them Villa fans have seen in years. Martinez sets his teams up to play football and to score goals.

    Lambert has been given a rough ride by their owner mind, he's done a good job keeping that side in the EPL, Allardyce does that kind of thing in his sleep though, although he's been given a decent amount to spend also.
     
    #3
  4. Bizarreknives

    Bizarreknives Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    3,671
    Likes Received:
    1,663
    In order, I'd go with....
    Mourinho
    Wenger
    Louis Van Gaal
    Brendon Rogers
    Manuel Pellegrini
     
    #4
  5. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    That surprises me, based on his spending only, nothing biased.

    I think I should have put Wenger in really, given his credentials and achievements but he seems to have lost his nuts at some point mid-2000's and never found them again. Can't fault him for developing players though, maybe he should have been in there for mine.
     
    #5
  6. Bizarreknives

    Bizarreknives Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    3,671
    Likes Received:
    1,663
    I like Rogers, yes he has blundered millions on crap players in the summer but I still think he will come good.
    Wenger has to be in there despite the last few seasons not being anywhere near challenging for the title, they are still constantly finishing in the top 4 and getting into the CL every year.
     
    #6
  7. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    Yeah, with Wenger I agree, I probably just wanted to put some names in that weren't all top 5 managers.

    Rodgers no from me, looks out of his depth.
     
    #7
  8. Shameless

    Shameless Well hung member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    9,100
    Likes Received:
    341
    <laugh> ...come on, Wenger has to be the mix, also, I think Pelligrini is a shrewd and clever manager.

    Of the recent crop, Gary Monk has done very well at Swansea imo.
     
    #8
  9. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    Where's Allardyce done a particularly bad job?

    He was good at Bolton, given their size and stature, got them to a European place.

    Done a fantastic job at Blackburn, then the dumb as **** owners come in and ruined everything.

    Done a decent job with West Ham to date, been under pressure and come out fighting, made real progress this season.

    Got fired by Ashley at Newcastle for Kevin Keegan... that worked out well.

    I've admitted, Wenger should really be up there, but by that logic, so too should Fergie, Wenger may as well be ****ing retired now.

    Monk has done ok yeah, although I'd be interested to see how he'd deal without Bony.
     
    #9
  10. TurkeyToon

    TurkeyToon Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2014
    Messages:
    382
    Likes Received:
    139
    No bias here I see..!!!!

    I think Pardew should get some sort of mention!! Martinez??? WTF... Not one of his teams he has ever managed can defend.. I con not see why everybody goes on about him so much. If he did not talk so much to the media they would not have the love for him. His teams can not defend and when his teams can not score he is lost as to what to do.... I also think Poyet has done a really good job with you lot. You are hard to beat but you need some sort of attacking threat, which at the moment, you do not have!! Endeavour, grit and determination can only get you so far boys!!
     
    #10

  11. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    Ref Martinez, he won the FA Cup with Wigan, a team that should never have been challenging for that cup, he also managed to set up a team to defend well enough last season, to finish 5th with a points tally that would usually have been good enough for 4th. He's been great in Europe with Everton as well. I think he'll learn how to work the defence and then move on to the next level. Real Madrid have never had the best defence, they've done ok over the years.

    As for Pardew, to each their own. I don't rate the bloke as a tactician, if you do put him in your list. I'd have had Bobby Robson in the top 5 of all time EPL managers by the way, his teams were brilliant to watch.
     
    #11
  12. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2013
    Messages:
    22,118
    Likes Received:
    43,103
    Moriniho
    Pellegrini
    Alladyce
    Pardue
    Pulis
     
    #12
  13. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    He works on Gillette Soccer Saturday now as the most boring, uninspired pundit ever.

    Good at his job mind, surely won't be out of work much longer!
     
    #13
  14. The Outlaw

    The Outlaw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,939
    Likes Received:
    506
    Special One
    Van Gaal
    Martinez
    Wenger
    Poyet
     
    #14
  15. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2012
    Messages:
    38,455
    Likes Received:
    14,828
    Jose
    Wenger
    Pardew
    Koeman
    poyet
     
    #15
  16. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    16,037
    Likes Received:
    11,883
    Depends what the question is... Who's got the greatest credentials? Who's doing the best job? Who would I most like to have as Sunderland manager?

    Who's got the greatest credentials?

    Mourinho
    LVG
    Wenger
    Pellegrini
    Koeman

    Who's doing the best job?

    Mourinho
    Allardyce
    Koeman
    LVG
    Pardew

    (Pellegrini goes in there if he sorts of the Champions league but not until then.)

    Who would I most like to have as Sunderland manager?

    Mourinho
    Poyet
    Pellegrini
    LVG
    Martinez
     
    #16
  17. Sam_Fring

    Sam_Fring Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2011
    Messages:
    1,551
    Likes Received:
    211
    Without looking at anyone else's:

    Wenger
    Jose
    Pelligrini
    Van Gaal
    Hughes (hate him though)


    Bottom few:
    Warnock
    Redknapp
    Irvine
    Bruce
     
    #17
  18. Sam_Fring

    Sam_Fring Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2011
    Messages:
    1,551
    Likes Received:
    211
    I wouldn't watch safc if any of these we're employed as manager:

    Jose
    Pardew
    Redknapp
     
    #18
  19. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2012
    Messages:
    38,455
    Likes Received:
    14,828
    who would i want in charge of my club :

    Poyet
    Allardyce
    Martinez
    Van Gaal
    Koeman

    who would i not want in charge of my club :

    Pardew
    Bruce
    Monk
    Rodgers
    Redknapp
     
    #19
    Disco down under likes this.
  20. John Cardew

    John Cardew Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2014
    Messages:
    1,949
    Likes Received:
    504
    Some blatant arse licking there putting Poyet in the top 5 <laugh> He's done rank average at very best.

    Also if you don't put Pardew in at number 1 you clearly have no clue about football <doh>

    My genuine top 5, no particular order but Jose is top:

    Mourinho
    Martinez
    LVG
    Pochettino
    Koeman

    Honourable mentions to Wenger who used to be one of the worlds best but should have retired at the end of last season, Pearson and Dyche who need to prove themselves in top flight but done everything right so far, and Neil Warnock who I think is a really good bottom half manager but would be a shambles for a team with aspirations.
     
    #20
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2015

Share This Page