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Work to begin on Anfield expansion

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by johnsonsbaby, Dec 4, 2014.

  1. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    So in other words, there may be scope to do so (i.e. it sounds like it could be possible), but there are currently no plans to do so (i.e. it's not in the current project scope).
     
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  2. Tobes

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    No.

    As I stated earlier, the original SP design was capped at 60k with the current transport infrastructure as the limiter. Ayre and LFC know fine well that if they're going to go above that level, unless there's a drastic change in the logic applied, then there'd be a huge infrastructure cost to be taken by somebody.
     
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  3. jenners04

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    i always thought we was maximizing what we could do with anfield now?, which was why there was a lot of backing to build a new one from scratch as was scope for expansion which there wouldn't be once we done what we could do now at anfield.

    who knows lol.

    you meet a lot of solicitors, structural engineers etc in your time when discussing our club <laugh> some may be true, who knows, i thought i remembered we couldn't do more than we are currently doing structurally.
     
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  4. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough, I missed that bit. It could be that there is scope to develop further if the infrastructure is expanded, but I'm guessing that would be too expensive to be viable.
     
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  5. Tobes

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    As I remember it, there was talk of a new train station / route being the key for planning approval above the 60k. The original Shermans design was 70k if you remember, but they had to downsize it to 60.
     
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  6. Germlands Nozzer

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    Do you remember who would have paid for it? I can imagine Liverpool balking at the cost, and I can imagine the council not wanting to pay if it was only really going to benefit the club.
     
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  7. Tobes

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    You'd only get that sort of infrastructure development as part of a much wider re-generation programme for the area imho.

    It'd make an additional expansion unviable financially if the club had to stand it.

    That said, planners change like the wind, so you never know, but I'd imagine any local dissenters would have a strong case to object based on the previous view on it.
     
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  8. Germlands Nozzer

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    Sounds about right.
     
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  9. The artist JerryChristmas

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    Not true mate, the residents would benefit too. If the council (their responsibility) had any brains they'd utilise the old inner loop line which runs from the Tech Park round to Kirkdale and could serve both grounds. It'd be a 5 minute walk to Priory Rd if they used that and built a station or two.

    Tobes is right that at the moment the capacity is capped and it's mainly due to the infrastructure issues. Knowing Liverpool Council (and especially with Uncle Joe in charge) that won't improve for a long time yet.
     
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  10. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    I did say "if" - your local knowledge is far superior to mine. Wasn't sure to what extent the locals would benefit as well. But if there's a good case for it anyway, then logically there should be plans for it if there's money's there. I also know that a) councils don't work logically and b) there probably isn't the money.

    Are you going to update us on Monday as to whether they've started?
     
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  11. The artist JerryChristmas

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    Next time I'm going past I'll get some pics <ok> You're spot on about councils and logic especially in Liverpool...we'd have had the first tram line built by now if Henshaw and his cronies hadn't scuppered it 5 years ago (yes the last council were as ****e as this lot). The West Derby Rd tram station would have been a ten minute walk from the ground.
     
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  12. johnsonsbaby

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    There is indeed scope to expand. Carillion submitted a &#8216;future proof&#8217; design that could see the capacity extended to 71,000 with the Centenary stand redeveloped and corner sections filled in with another 3,000 seats. The first phase in underway and while traffic infrastructure concerns were expressed the current increase was given the go ahead. It remains to be seen if any increase on 60K will be tried for and if it is the same traffic concerns will also be looked at. I can't see any further increase any time soon but the scope is definitely there.
     
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  13. So there is a possibility of a further increase but not until infrastructure is improved. Glad we cleared that up <whistle>
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Do we know if we can increase it above 59k in the future?
     
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  15. johnsonsbaby

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    Sort of <laugh>

    ''From our surveys and assessments a large majority of Liverpool supporters who attend home games are actually from the surrounding areas and primarily walk to the ground so having local transport infrastructure would not effect plans to increase the capacity to above 60,000.

    Representatives from Liverpool Football Club did ask for models to be drawn up of a improved centenary stand and how much extra capacity we would be able to get from redeveloping it. The total capacity of Anfield if the centenary, main and Anfield road stands were redeveloped would just be under 68,000. Filling in the corners would add an extra 3,000 seats (or around that figure) bringing the total capacity to around 71,000
    .'' - Carillion

    In reality it's a case of can local transport cope also local residents would be consulted if there were any plans to further increase.
     
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  16. Unfortunately, health and safety doesn't work in actual figures. Everything is based on worse case scenario. Agreeing that most walk now would be silly because that might not be the case in ten or twenty years time.
     
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  17. johnsonsbaby

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    I don't actually think most walk tbh but you're right 10-20 years hence the picture will be different again.
     
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  18. monty987

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    I am surprised you did not fill in the corners of your stadium (like WBA, Villa and Rangers) looks excellent the stand though. Arsenal's is too flashy and Everton's old fashioned, and the church thing is unique!.
     
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  19. Swarbs

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    Always be sceptical of the survey that is done by the company bidding for the work! Pretty sure what they actually mean is "don't worry local authority, and definitely don't require us to build a train station at cost price as a condition of getting this lucrative construction contract".
     
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  20. Germlands Nozzer

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    Where's Billy with his photos?
     
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