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2014 Post-Mortem: lessons learned and looking ahead

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Max Whiplash, Nov 24, 2014.

  1. dhel

    dhel Well-Known Member

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    And Cosi..yes, I am one of Lewis' biggest fans and I am not ashamed and I am honest about it, but I would hate to see him win any championship without good competition from other drivers and teams. While I love Hamilton's exciting style of driving I also love great racing and I really dont think running off with a championship halfway in any season would excite me. I prefer to be on the edge of my seat right down to the last race. What I would like to see is other teams getting into the fight and taking points off each other and that would prevent any one driver from running away with the title. I hope we see that next year. Oh and thanks for your reply.. I always enjoy reading your reasoning and explanations. So, thanks again.
     
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  2. dhel

    dhel Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if this is the correct place to post this but whichever way the results still reads 'SAD'.


    http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/509957/Bianchi_did_not_slow_sufficiently/

    Jules Bianchi 'did not slow sufficiently' before crash, say FIA

    Formula 1 driver Jules Bianchi did not slow down sufficiently to avoid losing control when he crashed at the Japanese GP, an FIA accident report has found.

    Marussia driver Bianchi, 25, suffered severe head injuries when he crashed into a recovery vehicle in wet conditions at Suzuka in October.

    He is no longer in an artificial coma and is breathing unaided, but remains unconscious in hospital in Nice.

    The FIA says he hit the 6,500kg crane at a speed of 126kph (78mph).

    Bianchi suffered a diffuse axonal head injury when he crashed into a recovery vehicle at Suzuka that was removing Adrian Sutil's Sauber car from the circuit.

    After a review of all the evidence, a 10-man Accident Panel appointed by the FIA issued a 396-page report on their findings.

    One of the conclusions was that "Bianchi did not slow sufficiently to avoid losing control at the same point on the track as Sutil".
    Drivers pay tribute to Jules Bianchi at the Russian GP

    Formula 1's drivers paid tribute to Jules Bianchi before the Russian Grand Prix a week after the crash

    In the days following the accident, Marussia said they were "shocked and angered" by reports from some media outlets that suggest Bianchi did not slow down under caution flags.

    They also denied claims they told Bianchi to go faster during the caution period to keep a rival behind.

    Marussia have since ceased trading with all staff made redundant after they failed to secure funding to compete next season.

    The report added: "During the two seconds Bianchi's car was leaving the track and traversing the run-off area, he applied both throttle and brake together, using both feet.

    "The Failsafe algorithm is designed to over-ride the throttle and cut the engine, but was inhibited by the torque coordinator, which controls the rear brake-by-wire (BBW) system.

    "Bianchi's Marussia has a unique design of BBW, which proved to be incompatible with the Failsafe settings.

    "The fact that the Failsafe did not disqualify the engine torque requested by the driver may have affected the impact velocity; it has not been possible to reliably quantify this.

    "However, it may be that Bianchi was distracted by what was happening and the fact that his front wheels had locked, and been unable to steer the car such that it missed the crane."

    This season, teams were allowed to tweak the parameters of their brake-by-wire system to suit a driver's style and thus Marussia can be seen to have not broken the rules.

    However, following the results of the report, the BBC has learned that the FIA will be tightening the limits to which teams can make changes to the parameters from next season.
     
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  3. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    No mention of the lunacy of a piece of heavy equipment out on the track in treacherous conditions.
     
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  4. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

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    Amazing it took a team of 10 to say Bianchi drove too fast for the conditions! More interesting that they did not query the minor reduction in speed the drivers had been allowed when under double yellows. I still can't believe that more marshal have not been injured.

    When there are people on track speeds must be reduced drastically.
     
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  5. Pit Lane Charlie

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    Am I being a technical dunce as well? Surely higher revs uses more fuel? Which I thought Nico did?
     
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  6. Pit Lane Charlie

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    Sorry. I see this has been pointed out already.
     
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  7. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Is the report saying he was going too fast on track or he didnt slow down fast enough off track?
     
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  8. TomTom94

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    I believe it was a combination of not slowing sufficiently for double yellows on track and not being able to slow down off track because his failsafe did not work.

    Once again, it was a perfect storm of a number of contributing factors, not simply "He was going too fast!"
     
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  9. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    In those conditions, nothing on the car was likely to slow him down sufficiently once he lost control.
     
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  10. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    That is true.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30320914 <- Benson's summary. Quite good, I think.
     
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  11. allsaintchris.

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  12. BrightLampShade

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    I find it odd that a professional f1 driver would panic and press both pedals at once, very strange.
     
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  13. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Could have been bracing for the impact I guess... He clearly saw ot coming. :(
     
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  14. EternalMSC

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    Good point that, he saw digger and just took all the effort out of braking as it wasn't going to help, and put it into bracing for impact. Keep pushing Jules we are all waiting.
     
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  15. TomTom94

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    Sorry for the bump, but this seemed the best place to put this:

    [video=vimeo;114417998]http://vimeo.com/114417998[/video]
     
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  16. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad you did, thanks. And thanks to NIN13 who made it. Nice to see Bianchi in there but very sad that we won't be seeing him doing any more.
     
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