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  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Women have been able to vote since 1928, ridiculous isn't it?
     
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  2. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    They precisely do this. It depends what issue they're trying to push at the time. If the Qatar world cup goes ahead for example, in the year beforehand they'll have a scorer from that region on the shortlist. If they decide they really want to push football in the US or Africa, they'll have a scorer from that region and so on. There's nothing wrong with this, it's what i'd do.
     
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  3. Mrs. BLUE_MOUNTAINS_BEAR

    Mrs. BLUE_MOUNTAINS_BEAR Well-Known Member

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    In Australia it was in 1902(except Aboriginal women, and men) and in some states was earlier eg South Australia 1894.
     
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  4. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    OK. Link me a better or even similar goal from any of the world's major and televised leagues where someone has volleyed the ball up with one foot, kept it up with the other then span round and volleyed to score from that distance with the first foot.

    If she was a bloke we wouldn't even be having this discussion regardless of the level.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    If it was a bloke who'd scored on a field in Ireland, he wouldn't be on the list.

    [video=youtube;uQGLVgyp_mA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQGLVgyp_mA[/video]
     
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  6. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Isnt James Rodriquez goal pretty similar?
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    It is the same, though personally I prefer the van Persie one.
     
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  8. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Me too. I dont remember my jaw dropping at a goal like that for a long time - occasion, vs world champions, the audacity, the actual techniqee of the dive and I ****ing hate Spanish football.
     
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  9. Quill

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    Yep, apart from he chested it rather than flicking it up with his foot.

    His was also in the knockout stages of the World Cup, which makes it infinitely better.
     
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  10. Tonight We Dine In Hull

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    From purely the goal on it's own I judge it by which one would I have preferred to score so it comes down to a diving header, a chest down and volley from the edge of the box or a few flicks spin and volley with the other foot on the edge of the box.

    I don't think the level of the game should come into it she is a woman playing against other women of the same level just like the two at the world cup are playing other players of the same level it isn't a mismatch of quality.
     
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  11. Craigo

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    The level of football argument is rubbish. You could say any goal Messi scores shouldn't count because he's on a higher level than anyone else on the planet.
     
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  12. bum_chinned_crab

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    What about the pressure of about 500million people watching?
     
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  13. Plum

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    Picking out 3 goals in a season is a pretty arbitrary task to start with, no way are 3 particular goals better than all the rest. So why not include a good goal from women's football, or semi-pro, or Sunday league come to that?

    Let the lady have her 15 minutes of fame without everyone trying to belittle her achievement.
     
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  14. Tonight We Dine In Hull

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    Fair point but I don't think once they start playing the thought even enters the players head about how many people are watching and that is my point about the level they are at, they are used to the respective levels of pressure it is the same for both teams you could argue the defenders and goalkeeper were under pressure and that's how they allowed the player to score.
     
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  15. TheCasual

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    [video=youtube;vaOp6k7bCSQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaOp6k7bCSQ[/video]

    Personally think this is a lot better goal and scored at a far higher level.

    It's simply on the list because it's a youtube sensation and she's female. You can go look through youtube and see similar great goals in park football.

    As for the winner I'd go with Rodriguez.

    Van Persie's was a good goal, but not really outstanding IMO.
     
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  16. bum_chinned_crab

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    Oh I dont know, you often hear international players talk about the feeling of dread at not letting people down "back home". Wasnt it Roy Keane who said a very prominent player at Man Utd pissed himself in the tunnel in a UCL knockout game away at Leverkusen or someone? Everyone at the time seemed to think he was talking about Beckham.

    It definitely wasnt Brian Laws.
     
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  17. Quill

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    Despite voting for James, I would've preferred to score RvP's the most.
     
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  18. PLT

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    Thats a reasonable point, but clearly the level of football did come into the decision for the most part, but was shoved aside for the tokenist nomination.

    Agreed, there's absolutely no reason a woman's goal shouldn't be in there. It's the fact someone's decided that a woman's goal has to be in there that irritates me. Positive discrimination is still discrimination.
     
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  19. Tonight We Dine In Hull

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    Didn't know about that but you also hear about players saying once they cross the white line etc. I still don't think the pressure gets to players during the game not when the teams are at the same level. When you see a non-league team play a Premier league team in the FA Cup then the pressure can get to them they misplace easy passes because they are playing at a higher level than what they are used to.
     
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  20. Quill

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    Load of rubbish, non-league teams are under ZERO pressure in those games, as they know they have nothing to lose.

    If anything, the Prem team is the one under pressure.
     
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