I am against the use of ivory for anything let alone towers. I care. I care about everyone , but not so much for myself it is true. Pious? There are takers and givers in this World. I don't take from anyone, and that only matters to myself. Yeah makes me Pious and Friend acn be an insult when used with venom, better that than to be a taker, to screw others for one's own ego's pleasure, to set others apart as aliens. Too far? No not really even seemingly meaningless debate points to the roots and truth in someone.