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have had enough of rodgers

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  1. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    It's also important how he does that. Fergie would tell Giggs which games he was going to play weeks in advance and prepare him physically and tactically on his role. When Gerrard was dropped for Real Madrid and yesterday it seemed it wasn't something Gerrard was prepared for. If he manages Gerrard properly he can bring the best out in him as a substitute OR for specifically targeted games/competitions. However, if instead he decides on an adhoc basis from game to game, it won't work imo - not for the team or for Gerrard's longevity.
     
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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Good point <ok>
     
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  3. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    for all the talk of Rodgers this and that and even new staff ect.

    The same c**ts missed out by a slip last season against Moneybags Maureen and the Zombie guy what's his face, City manager.

    We never replaced Suarez with another 20 goal+ kind of player that can at least play where he does, we got Badon.. and Studge.. we know about Studge

    Badon is what is killing him right now. Even with the new players, a firing striker would probably see is 8 points better off and no one would be saying anything other than what they were saying last season, "our defence is s**t". Badon better get his s**t together pronto.

    on the upside Lambert at least knows where the goal is, and he puts in a shift too.

    A striker in Jan is what I would love to see most, someone with pace vision. As much as I hate Eto, he would have improved us in going forward, and that's pretty ****ing tragic given he's 53

    And someone please PLEASE get Sterling a pair of shooting boots for Christmas, for f**s sake, great skill but he can't finish to save his life most times
     
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  4. Sharpe*

    Sharpe* Senior Member

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    <laugh> That made me laugh!

    Agree with what you say but would point out we did try and replace Suarez with Sanchez, but unfortunately we are no longer a big enough club to attract that sort of talent.

    This is the heart of the problem.

    We have reached a ceiling with the level of talent we can attract.

    The only way through it is paying silly wages which we cannot do.

    I like the owners, but we need stinking rich ones really.
     
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  5. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    It's not the size of the club and its not necessarily the depth of the pockets. For a lot of foreign players it's the lure of London that is too strong to break.
     
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  6. ClwydRedGGMU

    ClwydRedGGMU Member

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    Geography lesson for Foredeckdave.

    Manchester is not part of London. <doh>
     
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  7. saintanton

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    Quite keen on geography, I've noticed.
     
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  8. ClwydRedGGMU

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    Yes, a knowledge of geography helps one to find ones way from A to B without the possibility of arriving at the wrong destination, poor Dave should never captain the Mersey ferry, he would no doubt end up in Reykjavik due to not being adept in geographical know how. <ok>
     
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  9. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it is just the offense btw. The stuff with Sanchez, we should have been ****ing firm on that with Barca. I know we wanted to get business done but you are wanting our most prized asset, at least entertain us with Sanchez/Pedro/Mascher someone in the deal.

    However, we were looking for a commander in the CB and Lovren was meant to be it. All he looks like is a younger but not as comfortable version of agger. At least Agger knew the plan and the identity of things. I hope it works out for him as after this big money move, it is not really much higher he can go.

    Migs though...... I defended him a lot last year but this year he seems just shot of confidence. Maybe it is the front 5 ( counting DM) in front of him that keep changing that is affecting him? Valdes would not have been ready at the start but the fact we just skipped over a WC winner, CL winner, La liga winner, who has played with and against the best in the world seems a bit strange too.

    I don't know, from last year we are two players different, granted two big players and all of our goals basically, but two players different. Time for some of the subs/reserves to really start stepping up. Borini won't do it, Lambert was always meant to be a sub and is now becoming our focal point, Sterling seems to be off since the WC, Markovic seems shot of confidence when at Benfica he was running by defenders for fun. Just a lot wrong.

    Maybe time to dip into the academy a bit? Bring in the Suso, sinclair, Rossiter, etc?
     
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  10. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    This is the time that the manager earn the millions in his pay packet ! When things went swimmingly with Suarez in the driving seat, the managers job was plain sailing. We all could have done it for much less but when things are getting sticky, Suarez leaving and needs replacing, our main striker getting injured, bad run of results, confidence plummeting, we need the manager to earn his corn. Select the right players, the right formations and the right tactics the right selections and substitutions.

    Has the manager truly earned his wages this season? Has he done anything that any other manager couldn't have done and even better? I think the jury is out but we need to give him at least until the end of the season to make a full judgement.
     
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  11. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    i think there is a few that could have come in and sorted our defense out and made it better than it is at the moment, but that would have had more impact on how ****e we are up top than we currently are lol.

    rather an attacking manager than a defensive one personally, so we just have to take the rough with the smooth sadly, and hope he sorts it out asap.
     
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  12. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    So you really are as thick as your posts read then? The post I was referring to was about Sanchez and I don't think that he transferred to Manchester - but he may have done in your alternative universe!!!
     
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  13. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    It has occurred to me that in a hypothetical scenario what could have happened if we had a different manager (say Mourinho or Ancelotti) from the end of last season.

    1. Which players would we have bought and would those be very different to what we bought?

    2. Would we have bought Ballotelli and Lambert for example?

    3. If we had the same squad, would we have deployed them the way we did and would our formnations and systems have been the same as Rodgers?

    4. Defence: would another manager have done differently with the same resources we have?

    It is all hypothetical of course :bandit:
     
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  14. ClwydRedGGMU

    ClwydRedGGMU Member

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    David, you do realise I was merely pointing out that you were way off course with your assertion that the best players only head to London clubs.

    Do keep up. <doh>
     
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  15. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    You ask any foreign player where he would like to play if he came to the EPL and the majority would say LONDON. At the present time that means a realistic choice of 2 clubs.

    Please, grow up!.
     
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  16. Tobes

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    So none of the best overseas players in the league ply their trade in the North West then?

    Oh wait.........
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    You spot that too, saint? <laugh>
     
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  18. ClwydRedGGMU

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    Very droll. <doh>
     
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  19. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Sorted <ok>
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Well Lets say klopp had the good sense to see the impending disaster coming and got out... for example... or even simone at atletico as he has the same vultures circling all his players

    So

    1. I think klop would not have gone next nor near the prem players we bought. not sure but i reckon he'd have pulled quite a few german players from around that league. can might still have come. maye origi. it depends on the transfer committee and if it was retained etc

    2. No way would balotelli have been bought... that was a nutsoid decisions that i want to see both fallows and rodgers sacked over.

    3. I think we'dhave been a 4-3-3 still... some variant of that.

    4. its patently obvious that a different manager (pulis) could make our defence much meaner.
     
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