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Weak Mignolet has been exposed + EXCITING POLL!

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Sir_Red, Nov 26, 2014.

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What to do with a problem like Mignolet

  1. Loan him out

  2. Keep him as #1 keeper, re-assess in the summer

  3. Buy a new keeper in January and Mig can then warm the bench

  4. Buy a new keeper in January and sell Mig

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  1. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Chelsea and send him out on loan :bandit:
     
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  2. Swarbs

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    Utd have a wage structure too (cue endless comments about Rooney <whistle>).

    The main difference, as Shteve has been saying for about the past two hours, is that Utd's wage structure is based on revenue of £433 million, whilst Liverpool's is based on revenue of £206 million.
     
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  3. astro

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    <cheers>
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  4. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    no it's not, we could if we wanted to over pay as well, not on the same scale as you admittedly, but we could do has been the point all along.

    he just wants to say we is ****e, but we already know that, but you can buy whoever you like if you pay them enough :bandit:
     
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  5. InBiscanWeTrust

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    He's due a pay rise soon isn't he?
     
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  6. We opted to buy seven players with £120m. The total wages of those seven players will be substantial too. We also have several players out on loan that could offer the same level as some of the ones bought in (Suso and Markovic for example). So although what you are saying is true, the point he was making still isn't true. He was claiming we couldn't afford to spend the bigger wages when clearly we can but choose not to preferring a bigger (but average) squad instead.

    These figures won't be right but as a guide:

    Mankiller cost a loan fee (how much???) and I'd guess he gets around £40k per week
    Lovren cost £20m and I'd guess he gets around £80k per week
    Moreno cost £14m and I'd guess he gets around £70k per week
    Can cost £10m and I'd guess he gets around £70k per week
    Markovic cost £20m and I'd guess he gets around £80k per week
    Lallana cost £25m and I'd guess he gets around £100k per week
    Mario cost £16m and I'd guess he gets around £140k per week

    Thats £105m in fees (plus Mankiller's) and £580k per week in wages (£30.16m per annum)

    Are you telling me we couldn't have signed two top quality players instead...?
     
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  7. Tobes

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    If Lloris decides to move on, there'll be a queue of clubs in for him, as he's one of the best keepers in the World at present.

    You won't get a sniff.
     
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  8. astro

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    Name some then
     
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  9. Stan

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    Real, Barca, Arsenal, PSG, Man City. There are more but that's enough.
     
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  10. astro

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    <doh> so the ones I've already discussed, except Arsenal who have just bought a keeper and have a local rivalry, and Barcelona who have a transfer ban <doh>
     
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  11. I could see Man City going for him
     
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  12. Tobes

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    The top clubs across Europe will be interested and you're not one of them <ok>

    You had £120m burning a hole in your pockets last summer and could only get a few Southampton players, some European no marks and a lunatic that Milan couldn't wait to slam the door on. Enough said.
     
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  13. Stan

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    You seem a bit lost (for a change). You're agreeing that bigger clubs, with more to offer than Liverpool, might be in for Lloris. But you're still slapping yourself in the face.
     
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  14. astro

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    Man City are already struggling to meet their homegrown requirement. Getting rid of Hart would cripple them, so they might now want to go for him, though we obviously can't compete financially if they did.
     
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  15. Jürgenmeiʃter

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    Yeah good post
     
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  16. astro

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    I'm having a realistic discussion of the points for and against, you and the #bitter are wading in with ignorant statements based purely on being contrarian to anything good for LFC <ok>
     
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  17. jenners04

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    because as you have managed with not a lot to offer players, you can over pay for players and give them silly wages <doh>

    your argument has been all along we cant, when we can, just choose not to!

    simple really,well you would have thought, ****ing hard work!
     
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  18. InBiscanWeTrust

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    As much as I'd love lloris we have no chance. Madrid need him, PSG could get him and he'd have the French connection.

    Then you'd have top teams in Italy like juve or inter or Roma who would also be interested.
     
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  19. johnsonsbaby

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    Most of this post is incorrect. ''... deal fell through ..'' is just made up rubbish. When Reina was at Napoli he joined up again with Rafa and goalkeeping coach Valero and had a good season - it's been said his best performance since the last time he played under Benitez and Valero! And oddly enough, played much better than Mignolet!
     
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  20. Swarbs

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    We gave him a tyre on a rope. Should keep him happy until about 2018 <ok>

    You could, but only by sacrificing around a quarter of your squad.

    Buying two top quality players instead of seven average players is possible, but then who do you play if the top quality players are injured / burnt out? Same with Lloris - if you pay him twice what you pay Mignolet, that's one £80k per week squad player you can't afford.

    The other side of the coin when trying to get a top player is that if a top club like Real or PSG comes in, they will get him by offering the same, or even slightly lower wages, than Liverpool can afford. And a club with twice as much revenue as you can just buy him, see how it works out, then sell him in a year or two if he doesn't fit the bill. That's pretty much been Real's MO for the last decade or so.

    The final factor against you getting Lloris is that you would have to convince Spurs to sell, or Lloris to force the move. Not convinced you have a good enough standing in the PL at the moment to pull that off - like Suarez' non move to Arsenal in 2013, a player will only rock the boat so far if the club that wants them isn't far above the one they are at.
     
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