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Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Matth_2014, Sep 9, 2014.

  1. Stan

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    Joe Hart drops his second clanger of the game. Bayern dominating possession with ten men.
     
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  2. Stan

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    Bayern have a double dose of the Harts. Credit to Aguero, he is superb. Give him a chance and he scores. Fantastic player.
     
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    If you're going to be a one man team, you can't really choose a better man!
     
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  4. Stan

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    At no point have I ever considered Suarez to be a better player than Aguero. Suarez is immense against lesser opposition (Norwich) but he rarely turns up against decent opposition. Aguero is a big game player and arguably the strongest little striker in world football, defenders bounce off him! He may play for them but he is proper quality.
     
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  5. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    First Spurs with Bale, Suarez at Liverpool now our next one man team with Aguero at City. Their season would be over already without him.
     
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    Aguero is the main reason why City won their titles. He is City. I think without his goals City would have been in or near the relegation zone. they've got to pray he stays fit. As Strachan said yesterday on TV, " Anyone who puts in any tackle on Aguero in training should be taken out, sacked or/and beaten to a pulp..."
     
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    blah blah blah, the most non football minds can be found here.

    Silva makes City tick. Without him they look much less of a threat. Aguero only got three goals because of 2 epic f**ups.The one man team thing is a fallacy. There is no such thing. It's pretty simple, what a team has a very talented player they make him the focal point of attack, it's basic stuff folks

    If this one man team crap was true Portugal would have won the WC and Euros. Heck Ivory Coast would be world beaters.
     
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  8. Chief

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    I think you're taking one man team a tad too literally, although I agree it is a nonsense term to use. Complete bollocks.

    It's more that one person who is the magic ingredient and in City's case it is without any shadow of doubt Aguero, not Silva. Take him out and City are bang average.

    Kompany and Toure are also way more important to City than Silva is.
     
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  9. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Liverpool with Suarez nearly won the title.
    6 months later, absolutely ****e without Suarez.

    Nah you're right, no such thing as a one man team.....

    P.s don't take one man team so literally. :)
     
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    Liverpool play Ludogrets tonight.

    Also, Arsenal play Borussia Dortmund.
     
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    Ah, but you forget the man who started it all.

    Drogba at Chelsea <ok>

    Yeah, but it's funny as **** to see Sisu have a good cry over it :)

    One man team is definitely a nonsense term, but Liverpool's experience this season (and Spurs after Bale) does show that when one man leaves the team needs to change how it plays. You can't expect one man to still be the focal point of an attack when that one man is now playing in Spain!
     
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    Hopefully that'll be the case next season with Aguero pissing off to play for Real!!

    <ok>
     
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    I didn't know that, thanks for the info.
     
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  14. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Think you're forgetting Lampard. At worst we was a 2 man team briefly in 2010!!

    United were more of a one man team when Ronaldo if anything.
     
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  15. Bodinki

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    Agree 100% this "if its the last man ****" is absolute bullshit.
    So what? If it is a mis timed tackle it should be a foul no matter where on the pitch it takes place or where the other players are situated.
    The "Last man" thing should only be for cynical fouls were a players has purposefully tripped another with no attempt to get the ball to stop him being through on goal 1 on 1 with the keeper.

    Everytime a foul occurs when its the last man people call for a red card, it's pathetic, a defender should always be entitled to attempt a tackle in good faith without fear of being sent off.
     
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  16. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    I'm torn. If the striker has a really good chance to score and he is fouled for a pen. The penalty only really replaces the pre foul chance. So there is no punishment to the defending team for fouling in such a critical area (even more so if the pen is missed).

    Worse still, if outside the box the defender might as well foul the attacker to stop a one on one situation if all he is giving away is a free kick 25 yards from goal and a booking.

    We should be encouraging goals and attacking football. So for me, sending someone off if they are the last man and chops down a striker who is in on goal is a good thing. Not because I want to see a team play with 10 men, but because hopefully it reduces cynical last man fouls and increases opportunities for goals.

    The most silly rule for me is giving a penalty when an outfield player deliberately handles on the line (see Suarez v Ghana). Just give the goal and book the player. If its clearly going in, where is the benefit for the attacking team in having a pen they might miss?
     
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    And not one of the commentary team thought to mention this. They just said the usual last man red card rubbish and didn't think to challenge the decision once.

    Not sure if it was discussed at half time as I turned over but these are the people who are feeding your armchair fan with the ammunition they need to talk such utter ****ing tripe on a daily basis.

    It was a foul. That's all. It wouldn't even be a booking elsewhere on the pitch, let alone red. This is just another in a long list slowly ****ing football right up.
     
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    And quite right too, there was no guarantee at all he would have scored.
     
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  19. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Because it's not denying a goal scoring chance anywhere else on the pitch!!
     
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    He was 10 yards from goal and but for the foul would have got a shot away, therefore it denied a goal scoring opportunity, it was therefore a nailed on red, once the foul was given. He had no choice.
     
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