Rival Watch™ 2014-2015 Special: The Tactical Genius

there you go again... by this logic martinez should be sacked cos he's spent 33mil net this summer alone.....

well done

honestly i have had great fun laughing at you nut bags..... as for meltdown... every time you put your foot in your mouth you try that line tobes old son.... it does make me chuckle

 

Yup Moyes won the charity shield with his Inherited squad well done....

He also kept Everton well In the top half on a shoestring budget which you and many others seem to be missing the point of budget Rodgers has spunked 100m net In a short time Is that sort of money worth 100m+ then Just for one season?

 

1st to 7th is a ****ing huge drop by any ones standards. come on seriously ffs!! and pretty sure he had cash to spend to strengthen, not my fault he wasted it on fellaini lol,although good for you lot i suppose.

we know brendan is currently got us in a ****e situation, but he has still bettered what those 3 have ever done, no need to deflect.

 

. Both thinking alike. All have won a sum of zilch. Some have won zilch with more time. Some have won zilch with 220m.

I will stick with Mourinho and i'm sure the Everton fans will stick with Martinez (another cup winner) and others will stick with LVG and Wenger

 

Moyes had the fans believing that was the best Everton could do though, along comes Martinez and shows them they were seriously underachieving with Moyes' dull football and low expectations.

 

Taking a team that has been out of the CL for about 5 years from 7th to 2nd in one season is almost unprecedented. In fact, the points improvements in that single year is a record I believe.

So whilst Pulis's achievement was good, it's not as good as what Rodgers did that season.

You have to remember - it's not a case of just merely measuring the numbers of places climbed or points gained. But ask yourself - is it easier to gain points at the top of the table, to break into the top 4, to go ABOVE Chelsea and almost beat City, then it is to climb out of relegation where the points gap is a smaller.

Overall, the value of point increases as you get further up the table. That's why there was the whole Big 4 clubs dominating the league for such a long time. Breaking into that area of the table is far more difficult.

 

at last we got to your real motive of being on here

took long enough!

 

You silly, silly man.

Martinez spent £33m net this summer, however, he traded with a £20m surplus in the previous 2 windows, making his total net spend at Everton circa £13m.......

Again you claim to guffaw at the hilarity of your success, but the reality is you're making about as much sense as a tramp at midnight.

You've been downed here, it's becoming cringeworthy watching you unravel tbh mate

 

Hardly a deflect lol Not Moyes fault that Utd didn't open their wallet either?? There Is no denying that the squad he took over from at United was pap to suggest otherwise Is also pap...

Meanwhile another thread appears on this board Rodgers on thin Ice lol keep defending guys Its really laughable

 

Keep trying tobses. your logic is hilarious.... I'm laughing at you tits defending moys like hell... i've never once defended rodgers today on this trhead... you are too funny.

 

Which completely ignores the fact that Martinez arrived at a club that with a quality squad and a solid defence, that was the legacy of the Moyes era.

The football towards the end of Moyes tenure wasn't dull either, far from it.

Martinez has instilled his style and ethos into the side and it's a different looking side now, and I love the way he raises the bar rather than trying to lessen expectation, however that shouldn't be used to decry the Moyes era, as he did a fine job.

 

but if moyes was so great, why was he sacked?

questions are being asked of our current situation, understandable.

pitty none of you lot could have contributed on here more last season, why is that

you lot having internet issues as well

 

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I'm impressed at the way you've all managed to keep this going all day though

 

Firstly, from 7th to 2nd is a big jump, but Benitez managed to go from 2nd to 7th in his final season so no reason for it not to be done the other way. This doesn't make Rafa a terrible manager. I actually think he's fairly decent.

As for your 7th to 2nd trick, have you ever thought that Rodgers underachieved in his first season to get that 7th place. At least Kenny had the excuse of getting to 2 finals winning one.

Anyway years down the line, no one will remember Liverpool's nearly win under rodgers. As far as i'm concerned you'd have done better sticking with Kenny or Rafa. At least they bought trophies (if i'm using the logic of managers are decent if they win trophies)

 

People are destroying the flawed logic being used to decry Moyes era, not claim he was the second coming ffs.

Go have a lie down mate.

 

Sorry but that is ridiculous. You cannot tell me that climbing from 7th to 2nd (in this league and day and age) is just as easy as falling the other way around?

How many times has a club in LFC's situation ever managed to achieve the same level of 'success' in one season in ANY league? If it were that easy, then a lot more clubs would have done it.

It's damn near unprecedented.

 

...and it would have been viewed as a more impressive piece of management had it been the platform for further success.

The reality appears to show that the prime reason behind it was the man who left for Spain, as Rodgers appears to be totally clueless in trying to arrest the rapid decline that's followed his departure.

I know he's been unlucky with Sturridge, but he's also spent around £115m including bringing in another 2 strikers, so the fall should have been nowhere near what it has.

People are therefore questioning his actual ability and examining his management in far greater detail. It's the way it works. He's under massive pressure, if he IS actually a cracking manager, he'll sort it out and get the job back on the right track.

 

Moyes drops down league with united and he has flopped.

Rodgers drops down the league and its beacuse he lost two key players

He is a middle management jargon spouting moron who has been found out after a lucky season.

 

moyes was employed but was not given full backing or for whatever reason the signings he wanted were not made

you dont seriously think he just wanted fellaini do you??

I was on this board toward the end of last season saying I believed you would win the league and im still amazed you didnt
as lets be honest if the great Brenda had played for a 0-0 against a chelsea that came for a draw not a win its highly likely you would be looking lording it as champs now it had nothing to do with us losing to city or crystanbull the super brenda gets credit for getting you close but lets be honest theres no way you should have lost that title last year no way at all draw with the chavs shut up shop when 0-3 up job done instead teeth has ****ed off and left brenda looking stupid without his plan b but with a stronger squad so he says

Well done king brenda

 

Just to be clear, my own opinion with the league at the moment is that top 4 is the achievement. Whether you finish 2nd or 4th there isn't really much difference as you have not won the league and you are in the CL. Just to humour you though

Villareal went from 8th to 3rd in 2003-2005.
Juventus was 7th and ended up champions 2010-2012
Wolfsburg went from 5th to 1st in 2007-2009
Dortmund 5th - 1st 2009 - 2011
Valencia 5th - 1st twice 2000-2004 (under rafa)