Yeah but he not our striker now. We all know he wanted to leave before he even got a proper run in the team. He only made 6 appearances, 5 from the bench i think, I didn't see enough to even have an opinion though Gonads had seen a lot of him and he thinks he's an excellent player. Shame.
He's had his chance, let the lad move on on. We need to stop relying on our future in the PL on the possibilities of what he may become. And if we get the chance to move Fletch on, so much the better. Then use any funds from sales, and wages saved, to buy a footballer who knows WHERE THE F U C K I N G GOAL IS!!!!!!!! Our defence is solid but we won't stay up without goals! It's so blatantly obvious!!!
Years?? He's 21 FFS! People talk about him as if he's been in the game 10 years and should be playing CL football but isn;t doing it - he's a kid - at 21 years old I worked as a bingo caller - I'm now a successful NHS Trainer highly thought of in the organisation. When I was 21 I didn;t give a s**t about turning up for work every day. I see the potential in him as Captain America does and, one day, I do think he will be a very good Centre Forward - but he's not a winger and he's not playing well at the moment. When he plays well he's unplayable so I would say consistency is his key. For half an hour against Everton he looked good then reverted to current form. In parts on Saturday he looked OK but his youth caught up again when he had a shot instead of playing in Fletcher. He's also a much better player when Giaccherini plays BTW - Giaccherini assisted a large number of COnnor's goals last season and set him up on chances. I certainly wouldn't be giving him the apparent (as that's all it is) £40k he's asking for - but I also don't want to lose a player who, IMO, is going to be a very good player. People do need to think of what they were like at his age before slating the lad for being similar to most other 21 year olds Seriously? Fletcher has 4 this season and, but for a good (albeit slightly lucky) save by Schmeichel, would've had 5. To replace Fletcher will cost a lot more than we will get for him. On his day he is a very good [player and he's been lookoing the part recently so I certainly wouldn't get rid - who could we get to play up front that is better for less than £10m
Honestly look at what CW can produce & what we might be able attract in place of him... Hope he takes the offer, a win for both
Well, remembering Connor cost us 8m Michu cost Swansea 2million. Austin cost QPR 4m, scored 6 league goals this season, he's only one short of Wickham's entire Sunderland league career. Bony cost 4 million more and is 10 times the player. Leonardo Ulloa cost Leicester the same as we paid for Wickham and he's knocked in 5 league goals already, two short of Wickham's entire Sunderland League career. Could go on.
I was on my arse with the second slap! In all honesty though who the **** are we gonna get? Supposedly this lee ****initin is our dof but apart from rev and hopefully alveraz.. What have we produced in the TM? Who wants to come play for SAFC? Easy enough having the funds for players but attracting them to the club is a different story..
We tried this once last year with Borini and I thought it would bring out the best in AJ, he was completely annonomous and the plan was dropped. I would play Fletcher just behind Whicks , this is similar to your suggestion and I still think its our best option, I would also include Catts and Briddo as DM to balance the team.
Well that's the million pound question, apart from Gonads nobody who posts has much knowledge of the continent, but other clubs can find much better value, so can we. Congeton clearly has his hands tied with a budget and we were incredibly short on players in the summer. Gus has spoken of quality over quantity from now on and we're back running in the black so January and the Summer more so(as we'll have another massive injection of TV money) will be the time we can judge Congerton accurately. I'm pretty indifferent in regards to Congerton at the moment, he was brought in and was quickly caught between a rock and a hard place. Our incoming players were better then the outgoing ones in the summer imo, but we were left short in areas which leads me to believe he didn't have the budget to address everything adequately.
Good analysis mate, I have been a whinging prick since Saturday to be fair.. My gut tells me Ellis wallet will be quite light even in the jan window & beyond unfortunately! January market is notoriously inflated (DG any1?) spot on with lee con though, best to judge later, there are gems out there! Can he get them?
January I think it will be down to the wage bill, we'll need wages off the books to bring someone in, so that will rely on finding new clubs for Cabral and Graham for the rest of the season, and maybe move out either Connor or Jozy to free some more. If we stay up there's no excuse for not handing Gus 20-30 million for a couple of quality players imo. Wouldn't surprise me if we get less though. Hope Congerton can deliver, who knows though?
Remember that movie Happy Gilmore? My favourite line In it is shooter magavin's ' I eat pieces of **** like u for breakfast' well that's our transfer policy of late.. Anyone with half a brain won't want DG or Cabral & this is where we are failing.. Based on 20 or 30 Mill, lee congerton has the most important job of all for SAFC..
"you eat peice of **** for breakfast?" He does indeed have have the most important job at safc at the moment, we're trying to stop a trend here, failure will set us back years again.
bloody last year mate playing volleyball I hit a winner but ****ing slid in dogshit!! Ripped me shirt off & threw it at me mate Failure is not an option for lee.
All in easy hindsight ,pray tell who we should buy as a replacement bearing in mind the players you have mentioned above were a gamble for the respective clubs and have come good,connor was bought for the future and like marcus i think he will be,but again thats our opinion ,i also agree fletcher should play behind connor . As much as i would like connor to be a success its not hard to see at the moment its not brilliant even to the fact i wouldnt mind seeing graham given a game who wasnt bought for the future and he like jozy and socco have been ,well lets say not great (****e). The subject of goal scoring forwards will forever be a mystery a lot is down to chances created , team selection and tactics the combination is not easy thats for sure ,time will tell january will see what gus thinks im also sure of.
Of course, but I'm not suggesting we sign them, their stock is considerably higher anyway. I was just highlighting the point that other teams find value where we seem to be consistently unlucky in that department, a point which is impossible to make without the use of hindsight. So in theory we can find value too. Every signing is a gamble.
chuck in some names into the equation who safc in your opinion should go for to compliment or replace what we have here at present as forwards,bearing in mind cost to buy ,wages etc.
don't know fella, I'm not a scout, don't watch much overseas football. Bet Gonads would have some suggestions.
There are some around but its convincing them that Sunderland is the right step for their future. We have the same problem at Newcastle. There are 6 or 7 genuinely attractive options to foreign players, then its a case of how close you are to London. We are both shafted on both accounts. The reality of why Newcastle kept going to the French market isn't because it was a much more talented group than other leagues but because it was good value and easier to convince others to move once we had a hub of French players. No-one can be certain who is going to succeed but its fair to say that if there is a player who is highly likely to succeed, is playing well, has great potential and would be willing to move to the north-east for reasonable wages then... Chelsea/Man City/Barca/Real/etc are buying him to play in their reserves. Maybe we can get them on loan in a year or two.
Well put, we are both up against it in this respect, I would still say you have played the market so much better than we have, not that that is saying much, over the last five years we have been absolute pants.
