Send Gaston Ramirez back

Did no one else see Ramirez wallop the Spurs player in the middle of that fracas when both teams crowded the ref in the first half?

He'd have walked for that if any of the officials had seen it.

 

Agree with Ellewoods. Saw the same channel. In fact Robbie Mustoe was quite definite about it. The commentators at the time were watching the play and just made a comment that there was an incident off the ball spotted by the linesman.

 

Danny Higginbotham was a co-commentator on the channel I watched and said Ramirez was in big trouble just as the play was stopped. For him and the main commentator it was a red card. I have re-watched it a few times including in super slow motion and feel a red was extremely harsh. A view from directly behind the linesman indicated that from the incident occuring to the flag raise was between 2 -3 secs. Also clear that Vertonghen appeared to cry/scream out on falling which caused nearby Spurs players to appeal to the linesman. The alleged" kick-out" only brushed his wrist.

 

I dont understand people comparing it to Beckham vs the Argies, his was much worse.

 

I thought at the time - and this confirms it - Vertonghen grips Ramirez' fot as he goes past.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE RAMIREZ REACTS TO THAT.

 

That wasn't Kilbane, Higgenbottom or someone.

 

Have still got the recording so will check. Cheers.

 

I think it's the knee from Vertonghen that Ramirez reacted too, Wilshere, Tomkins and Mirallas got away with worse than Ramirez over the weekend.

 

No doubt we will appeal and have a good chance the red is overturned , wont hide the fact it cost us 3 points yesterday.

 

SB said there would be no appeal in his post match interview with David Burns.

 

whatever the disagreement on here, could you imagine a Whitehurst in this situation?

In those days you stood on your feet and showed you were a man

we need to revise these rules

 

Ramirez kicked out at the Spurs player who kneed him and has he's falling Vertonghen moves his foot and Ramirez slaps him is how I saw it.

 

The attack was minimal but lashing out IS a red card by the rule book no matter how soft unless you play for Manchester United, Liverpool etc..

 

What a load of old tripe. ^^^^ this. Get a grip FFS.

He was having a very good game and causing Spurs many problems like the rest of them.

It was nothing more than a tap but after the red was shown he should have left his fist in Vertonghen's face as he walked off. imo.

The game has gone soft and Vertonghen fell as though he had been shot.

Yes GR let the team down to a point but i know who i blame for the red card. (linesman/ref and JV).

nb. What Jack Wilshere did to Fellaini on saturday was far worse yet got nothing. Big club wins again.

 

You are correct - it was Danny Higginbotham. Will correct on my original post.

 

No point. Chance to bring back James Chester and go back to 3-5-2- @ Man Utd now. We will need more pace at the back next week.

 

Watch Sunderland v Chelsea, Costa committed a far worse kick out than Ramirez and never got a red card, no consistence by ref's.