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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Not seen Stan about so thought I'd do it.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football...tottenham-hotspur-premier-league-match-report

    This comment by a Spuds fan sums it up for me


    t may have been harsh, but it was still stupid of Ramirez to give the ref a decision to make. Livermore was also lucky not to see red for his late and dangerous tackle on Mason.
    I don't think we were as lucky today. Both our goals were quality goals - I know Kane's was a tap-in but it came after a glorious freekick from Eriksen - and we took full advantage of the advantage Hull gave us. They were very ill-disciplined throughout the game, fouling plenty and arguing with the referee for every decision. There's no doubt Hull were the better team in the first half and deserved their lead, but a lack of discipline cost them dear.
    Also, you say it was a foregone conclusion when Hull went down to ten. I'm not so sure. If they'd shown a bit more ambition going forward, as they did in the last ten minutes, they would have had enough about them to cause some problems for our defence. If there's one thing our defence does not deal with, it's pressure and players running at them with pace. They got a pretty easy ride of it second half, because Hull sat back, the natural reaction when a team goes down to ten men. If Hull had looked to test us going the other way, I'm not sure how well we'd have coped.
     
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  2. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ristian-Eriksen-scores-late-winner-Spurs.html

    Undoubtedly, the red card changed the game. Credit to Tottenham for taking full advantage of it. Hull, meanwhile, perhaps need to understand that losing a player doesn't necessarily need to be the equivalent of a football death sentence. They retreated far too much – both mentally and in terms of territory – once Ramirez went off and they perhaps need to reflect on that a little.
     
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    Edelman Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.
    We seem to go into a Roorkes Drift mentality without the favourable outcome
     
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  4. kingstontiger

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    Yep, also agree. Easy to blame our defeat on the ref but did feel we retreated too deep. The first half was the most advanced I have seen our midfield for a while, and I never really felt when we retreated so far we were going to hold out. Of course part of that might have been the way Spurs played but I think we partly contributed to our own downfall.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    We did retreat too much, I'm afraid it's something Bruce always does in these situations.

    But it was an excellent first half performance and all things being equal we could well have won today.
     
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  6. Edelman

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    First half was really good and I didn't see anything but a win
     
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    We were really good first half, but we sat deep before Ramirez even got sent off. Apart from immediately from the kickoff, we hardly even tried to mount an attack in the second half. We came out with a completely different mentality and yet again it's cost us.
     
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  8. SydneyTiger14

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    I knew we'd resort to lumping it up field, which I never understand because it gives the ball back and invites pressure. Hold the ball, pass it around a bit. Especially with the red being a CAM, that's probably the least useful position so it really shouldn't have impacted on us at all. the longer we're on the ball, the less time they have to attack us.
     
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  9. Fez

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    Decent first half, but too many missed chances, piss-poor officials who almost balanced it, but not quite and a poor second half of negative defending and a very concerning lack of discipline - they all need sorting to some degree, Huddlestone to Robinson.
     
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  10. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    The worst thing about yesterday was that Spurs are as bad as ive seen them in years. They only have 4 of any real quality.
     
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