Good point, Piskie. It would be in nobody's interest to enter into a **** flinging contest. Assuming there is enough **** to fling, of course. We will have to see how things develop. I still cannot believe that Levy didn't take legal advice before going public with this. So, we will have to wait to discover his real motive for doing so.
You're right, we don't know, we're simply speculating. But seeing as we can only speculate on what's presented to us, I would suggest that WHU accusations are likely to have some substance, otherwise they would be made to look like complete fools (and be liable to be sued). It makes no sense for them to simply pluck something out of the air and totally fabricate an allegation. If that's all it was, it would be shot down in an instant.
I am really getting worried that this obsession of Levy's with the Spanners and his failure to land the Olympic Stadium is taking his mind off keeping the squad together and building the team. So much of this smacks of Levy throwing his toys and his dummy out of the pram. I wish he'd give up this lost cause and concentrate on finding us a site nearer home, one that will not alienate our fans.
Levy is acting in the interests of the club. That an experienced chairman is acting irrationally and on a vendetta is highly improbable. I'm pleased we've got to hear a bit more on what has been driving our appeals. I must admit I was expecting the revelations to revolve around the government influencing the OPLC decision and just how Newham council and West Ham came about negotiating their deal. The article Ensil posted makes a good summary of the situation, although I can't say I agree with his conclusions at the end. Piskie, you're a Gooner WUM, on the WUM. Your posts on this thread have been littered with misinterpretations of both the law and this situation. Kindly stick to subjects you have a stronger grasp of.
I dare say he believes he's acting in the best interests of the club, but I cannot see that he is on anything other than a fool's errand. Do you really see the courts supporting us against the Government? They certainly haven't been any where in the mood to do so, yet. Levy's even had a judge warning him against making an appeal, so what does Levy do...? And I don't share your view that Levy is incapable of acting irrationally. His obsession over the Berbatov debacle nearly cost us our PL status. That was his fault, and his fault alone. Now, his obsession over the Olympic Stadium and the Spanners could cause him to take his eye off the ball, leaving us without the players we need to to build, and Modric & Bale get disillusioned, put in transfer requests, and are gone on the last day of the transfer window, leaving us weak and with a dispirited squad and manager. I can see it happening. Why? Because it has happened before.
Why do you make this a contest between me and Levy? I'm not asking you or anyone else to "back" me. I'm not intent on turning this into a competition between Levy and me. I'm merely pointing out that Levy seems to be on a fool's errand, and that I would prefer him to concentrate on matters closer to home. You obviously take the opposite view, and believe that Levy's obsession with this Stadium nonsense will not adversely affect our team. We each have our views on the matter, and either one of them may prove to be correct, or neither of them may prove to be correct. Why take an antagonistic stance with me?
Look, Levy is anything but a hot head. If anything, he's the exact opposite. He would have been taking legal counsel all the way through this. He is pursuing matters for a reason, be that because the OS is the cheapest option,and he still thinks - or his lawyers do - that he can get the decision overturned, or he is putting pressure on the Gvt to get funding for the Northumberland project, I don't know - none of us does - it's all conjecture. What I DO know, is that Levy is nobody's fool, and he would not be pursuing this without good cause.
Levy has made mistakes at the club. Bringing in and standing by the continental DoF/Head Coach system probably being his most significant. However, when it comes to the non-football related club decisions he has been excellent and that's where his vast experience is. All the evidence suggests that the club are in the right on the OS decision and if we can use this to our advantage then why not? What you're saying is all speculation; Levy is making emotional decisions, it's a distraction from his other duties, we're losing ground on our transfer targets, Bale and Modric will be able to force moves. This is why it's difficult to appreciate what you're saying, you're simply not taking on board what we know and instead getting carried away with what could be.
Wrong about it being of detriment to Spurs? Or wrong about the OPLC, Newham council and Boris not reversing their decison? or something else? I'm sorry but in my opinion, if it does 'run and run and run', which Levy (and now to counter him, WHU) seems intent on doing, then I can only see the OPLC digging their heels in further. I honestly don't see the OPLC making a u-turn, suddenly admitting that they got it wrong and handing the OS to Spurs. The fall out from that would be huge. They would lose all credibility, and you can bet they and Spurs would then be facing another legal battle from WHU, Newham council and possibly the Mayor of London. I think Levy has made a knee jerk decision on this matter. He thought Spurs had a better bid for the OS, but it failed - whilst there's some embryonic plans for a development at NP, there is currently no real substance to any plan B - and I think this it what has driven him into pursuing this matter. He has raised the first fist in anger, and now unless he makes a huge climbdown, he has to pursue this to some kind of conclusion, but that could take months or even years of court room wranglings. Which, in my opinion brings absolutely no benefit to Spurs whatsoever.
Once again, Levy does not go into something like this lightly. If he is pursuing this, trust me, there's a reason. He is not one to enter into pointless vendettas. There will be a clear motive for what he is doing. As I, and others, have said, it could well have more to do with the Northumberland project Last of all, Levy does NOT make Knee jerk decisions on something like this. It will have been carefully thought through and discussed with his legal advisors. As Schteffen has alluded to, as you seem to know so little about Mr. Levy, or the way he operates., it might be better if you changed the record, before you start being accused of being a boring WUM.
I knew it before, but I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt, but now I have absolutely no hesitation in recommending you to every one as the biggest knobhead I have ever met on a sports chatroom. There is absolutely no way you are a proper Spurs fan. You might fool some of the idiots on here, but you don't fool me. I don't care what you you think, and I don't care what you say. Just fcuk off and stop stalking me. If you see something I've written that you don't like, ignore it. It's not going to kill you. I, in turn, will ignore everything you write. I do, anyway, because what you write is, generally, complete and utter rubbish. You'll note that I don't ever comment on any of the bullocks that you write. The only time I ever converse with you is when you take your usual opportunity to have a swipe at me. Keep doing, twat. Please.
Blah blah blah. So what? No true Spurs fan cares about any of this. We want to stay at the Lane. We don't want to move to East London and become the club that the Spanners wish they had been. It would be a blasphemy. Levy is only interested in the Olympic Stadium for two reasons (in order): (a) it would be a very cheap alternative to actually us building our own stadium, and (b) he's got a bee in his bonnet about being (in his mind) turned over by the Spanners. So what? It happens. Move on. We have more important things to think about. This is yet another example of Levy's incompetence. Every true Spurs fan knows exactly how incompetent he's been in the past. Jol, Ramos, Berbatov, Keane, to name but a few of his major gaffs. The Olympic Stadium is fast becoming his biggest gaff. It will cost us a top 6 place next season, and also our biggest star. Mark my words.
Too fcuking right. You are far too much of a complete and utter plum to be any one's mate. And, incidentally, I used "pal" in the same way that I talk to idiot Gooner WUMs. Which, of course, is just what you are
I've not thought for one minute that Levy believes he's doing this for a 'pointless vendetta'. Of course he has an agenda that he feels is worth pursuing. As for my knowledge of Levy's innermost motives, I probably know about as much as any other fan does, so we're all speculating really. I believe it's a knee jerk decision, you don't. But that is our belief and we're allowed to differ (that is the defining ethos of a forum that eschews the mantra of debate after all). It will be interesting to see how this story develops, but for me, I have to say again, I can see no benefit for Spurs coming from it.
