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Car Giant plans for Old Oak move one step further

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by JudoRanger, Nov 15, 2014.

  1. DT Footspa

    DT Footspa Well-Known Member

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    Things just don't move well in the UK ESP London unless everyone gets paid enough to guarantee the rules are broken .

    I would like to now hear from our club what the alternatives are unless of course this was always the plan to make Car Giant act and show its hand

    We are promised a stadium and new training complex I currently have little confidence that either one will start a build within 5 years

    Anyone can release plans it's really cheap to do so

    We are in a pit of **** currently
    IMO and the naivety shown is laughable
     
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  2. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Top post. But at least we've had a break from the constant non updates on this stuff. And I know what good looks like now, and am not inclined to settle for second best. On our day we have some of the best fans in the country, we deserve a decent stadium. We don't have 40,000 fans who will turn up and sing every other week, scale down, find some stadium only sites and get a move on.
     
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  3. peter1954qpr

    peter1954qpr Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Kilburn i feel a whole lot better
     
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  4. peter1954qpr

    peter1954qpr Well-Known Member

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    Blimey all these peter 1950's / 60's the place is swamped
     
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  5. Kilburn

    Kilburn Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully, and the same goes for our R's, we won't all peter away!

    Did Peter Piper pick a peck of pickled peppers? If Peter Piper Picked a peck of pickled peppers, Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked?
     
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  6. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    you should never admit to talking to your old fella
    nudge nudge
     
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  7. thisismyengland

    thisismyengland Active Member

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    Same here - and the Fernandes era will just be a fading memory by then.
     
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  8. 4StringR

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    Isn't Life Strange.

    If it were Chels** looking to build on Old Oak then all of a sudden Mendes changes from being a jumped up little Del Boy and would be seen as the Managing Director of a former QPR sponsoring company who sponsored us during the bad times and whose own son is a massive QPR fan and helps host a QPR pod cast. He would be seen as fighting the Corporate and Local Government shysters trying to destroy a local business that should be supported. We'd be encouraged to rush down to Car Giant and support him.

    However, because he is stopping us doing what we want to do (well what some of us want to happen) he is the Anti-Christ.

    Strange world.
     
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  9. CroydonCaptainJack

    CroydonCaptainJack Well-Known Member

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    He is not the Anti-Christ, he is a very naughty boy!!
     
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  10. Chair Nob'll Fallout

    Chair Nob'll Fallout Well-Known Member

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    Don't agree with that at all.

    I think what's been remarkable about QPR fans reaction so far to Car Giant's position on Old Oak is actually how even-handed and un-tribal they've been about it.

    Almost to their own detriment it could be argued.
     
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  11. thisismyengland

    thisismyengland Active Member

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    Maybe not everyone is in love with the new stadium concept. The most positive feeling I'm able to conjure up when considering what the club has presented thus far is that that sort of stadium in that kind of setting may be a necessary evil. On balance, though, if the club could survive long-term at Loftus Road, albeit mainly occupying the 2nd tier of English football, I'd probably be pretty comfortable with that.
     
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  12. Chair Nob'll Fallout

    Chair Nob'll Fallout Well-Known Member

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    You could be right there mate, and I can certainly see the attraction of being a big fish is a small pond, winning more often than losing etc.

    The trouble with that approach though is that clubs of a similar size to us are not standing still themselves. They're all looking to grow and are moving forward with bigger stadium plans of their own (look at Brentford). So if we don't also show some ambition and look to grow ourselves then we shall end up going backwards. We could soon find ourselves not competing in the second tier, but in the third or fourth, or possibly below. Personally that's not something I want to see.
     
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  13. thisismyengland

    thisismyengland Active Member

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    That doesn't sound so bad to me. We've seen it before. My dad grew up watching (and enjoying) that. Progress isn't always progress.
     
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  14. Tramore Ranger

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    The main problem these days is that every club owner wants some of the vast sums of cash that are being thrown around by Sky, the days of standing still are long gone and is now no longer an option unfortunately. The days of accepting that the club you support are a decent 2nd, 3rd division side who occasionally have a cup run no longer applies, every side wants to get to the holy grail of the Premiership even though it is a crap place to be most of the time.

    From our perspective TF wants us as a global brand, whether that is a good or bad thing, and unfortunately Loftus Road is just not good enough for that vision, however I'm not sure a 40K ground is right either, we could end up like Coventry playing before 10k crowds in a ground that hols 30 odd thousand. I would be quite content if we aimed at 25 - 30 k capacity with the intimacy that LR has, and the possibility of expansion should the need arise.....
     
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  15. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    Completely agree with all of that.
     
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  16. Queenslander!!

    Queenslander!! Well-Known Member

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    Yep, Ill agree with that.
    I certainly wont be happy with watching us play Div 2, 3 or what ever as i want to see us compete against the best and have some ambition. If i wanted to see crap like that i'd follow our A-League thanks.

    There wil prob come a time when Loftus Road will not be able to fund a professional team given the obscene salaries and demands of todays players.

    Personally i want to be in the Prem, its the only way i can watch my team every week. Failing that, bouncing betwen the Prm and NPC for a few seasons could be fun.

    Cant get on board with some outdated memory of watching us in Div 3 playing like crap against another bunch who dont really want to be there. Thats not football, thats just a waste of a Saturday afternoon.
    Would be like supporting Harrow Borough
    Each to thier own i suppose <ok>
     
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  17. DT Footspa

    DT Footspa Well-Known Member

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    Agree but we knew that getting an investor on board would always mean investment ... You invest to get return
    TF is getting his by spotlighting himself every chance he gets
    What does Phil do?
    It will be a massive pull to leave LR and our generation of fans will not like it unless they get the brand build spot on ... To date it has been complete tosh
     
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  18. Queenslander!!

    Queenslander!! Well-Known Member

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    DT, Are you back on the meds? because you have been putting up some cracking posts lately

    Please keep it up

    Respect <ok>

    EDIT: And a hand full of REP to go with it :)
     
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