Yeah,these clubs know the punishments will be punitive. Like Citeh's £49m fine (reduced to £17m on appeal ) and a 3 player reduction in CL squad numbers (24 to 21)
21 squad instead of 25... makes **** all difference to them really and the fine is reduced if they do better etc etc. Kick them out the comp as until then, fines for mega rich clubs are as stupid as allowing Bernie Ecclestone paying his way out of a bribing case
I never did make any EPL specific references. You were the one who chose to limit the conversation. As for Sky and their broadband offering, they are streets behind BT and its capability
Why do you think they impose squad limits in the first place? It was a first offence, the sanctions will get harsher if the rules are broken again. Look how Chelsea have behaved in the last 3 years, they are taking it very seriously
Worldwide just how much is Sky losing due to file sharing and outright piracy? Whereas BT are still receiving a provider income.
Only because they can. Don't like Chelsea and they way they've gone about it, but from a business point of view, someone up in the higher ranks deserves a big bonus from them. Invest in quality young players and stock pile them while you can, then when FFP comes in, you can loan them out and then sell them for £10-£15m for the good ones (£5m for the average) and it increases your revenue. That allows you to them invest in superstars without breaking FFP and still making a profit.
Don`t understand your view of this, you can get BT matches on the same streams as Sky matches. All Sky are doing with skygo is giving it`s customers what they pay for anywhere.
This is true, great business plan but like you, i hate the way they have gone about it. Too many promising youngsters have stagnated or disapeared because of them.
The one thing i'd say on the Chelsea model is it is highly highly unlikely to generate a local talent and in the end hg quotas will rise They will in the end have to spend a lot of that vast pool of talents value on muck like what's in the England set up
Only you did Dave, you said the following; You were talking about projections and specifically the EPL, hence the discussion.
Eh? Sky and BT are losing out in equal measure (pro rata) to the pirate streams etc. How does BT leverage revenue from this and Sky not? That makes no sense either. As BT aren't necessarily the carrier for the pirates or it's consumers and even if they were, how does merely carrying the stream generate them any significant revenue? As there won't be many people sat watching a streamed match via 3/4G people use broadband.
look if bt never put money in sport they'd still sell broadband. just cos people sit on bt broadband pirating matches on sky that doesn't mean a penny goes the bt that would not have anyway. BT have created channels buy buying ton that market to compete with a total package sky offered. The fact is that while the current football deal is a record there are bigger deals out there yet so I can see the football money continuing to climb as well as overseas contribution for a while yet. I don't see how we can know that its peaked... we'll know when it actually does. the WISE clubs are investing the surplus into bricks and mortar facilities not paying fat salaries and transfer fees. Lets face it 10 years ago the thought of a 150mil stadium expansion had lfc bankrupt with 75mil debts as far as moores was concerned. today 150mil... meh. pay that off in 5 years using tv money. Shoveling vast fees out to southampton in that regard is sinful. We all accuse arsenal of not succeeding just for the banter but deep down we know 90% was wenger's ego. they have huge reserves and stadium paid down. lfc have spent every penny chasing amateur hour efforts at success by throwing **** at a wall and seeing what sticks. 2014.. statium plans are now defined. I vote LFc spends properly from now on.... if i hear another lallana type signing i say everyone at the club should be tarred and feathered
Now I know that my eyesight is not as good as it once was but for the life of me I see no reference to the EPL in what you quote! I do however see direct mention of "a worldwide audience".
Really disappointed in BT Sports - they had a real chance to revolutionise the football coverage in UK but instead they serve up sh*te in the form of Owen, McManaman, Savage etc. Such poor coverage. Makes me happy with Sky!
well i only have btsport and no sky, so quite happy to put up with that ****e. Owen Hargreaves is a regular as well isnt he? also Keown (or is it another ex arsenal player lol) seems to be on there a lot. be nice if they had an ex manager or referee. dif point of view and argument.
Give them a chance. They've only just started and don't have the same financial power or reputation that Sky do. Agree about the pundits though, they certainly need to improve. A lot of the guys were involved in Setanta sports too, did they get taken over by BT Sport or something?
Right oh mate, we weren't discussing the potential future value of the EPL's TV rights and you never commented on it..........
