We don't need media manipulation, we have video evidence of what a scum bucket he is, he himself has exposed himself as the man he truly is, and we pity him and his small mind. Did he get that journalist banned for asking questions about Giggs being a man whore?? Yes he's a very nice man... Still waiting for you to try and deny one single FACT I have raised tonight, I suppose I'll have a very long wait.
6 in 15 yes, but its not just about that. he took an average side and made them great. This is equal to any silverware imo. Fergie wanted to make United the best, he set his sights on the current top dog. Not going to set them on anyone else is he. If you think United are obsessed will liverpool your a bit thick.
Still avoiding the facts I see, come on court jester, make me laugh some more, do a little dance for me, and tell me more of your fantastical tales of warped perception.
The point about short term success being easier than long term success is certainly a contentious one. It might be said that over time it actually becomes easier, because you know your team better every season, you know the league opposition better and there may be less pressure on your given your former success. Notice that I said 'might' and 'may' there, allowing for exceptions? Some managers (Chelsea, R.Madrid) are given too little time to build anything and at the first lapse of success are sacked. Sometimes you lose control of your squad (I think Benitez did in his last season and the build up to it.) In the above case the manager has lasted 6 years tops (that being Benitez) so who can say if they'd had another decade they wouldn't have added many more trophies? Fergie has had that time and, credit to him, he's delivered on it. There are plus and minus points for both U1R, and I don't think you can just come out and say long term success is a greater achievement than short term without having considered them all. Even then it can only ever be an opinion.
He built the foundations that would lead to amazing levels of success in the future. So yeh, he certainly did. Both Shanks and Fergie are dynasty builders.
I think long term success is tougher as over the years situations change. players age, replacements are needed, new challengers come into the frame, financial situations change, new owners, new rules, new restrictions. Remember fergie has now been at United during 4 seperate decades now. Alot of things have changed over the years and yet hes maintained the success. Wenger is a good comparison. Short term did very well but long term he just cant cut it.
Like I said, you can either join the moronic LFC forum members and be an idiot or you can be sensible and have a decent debate like Raaaul, LFC Suarez, Bow4fowler and others. Your decision will be duly noted, thanks.
Yeah, well that's the flip side of what I said. There are pros and cons. Wengers main problem is his (or the board's) unwillingness to spend money in the transfer market. For 3/4 seasons he's just needed that strong tackler in midfield, a decent GK and CB, but hasn't brought one in. He could, and should, cover all that in one summer.
United finished in the top 3 or 4 almost every year before Ferguson joined and then he took the club downwards to 11th and 13th place, league positions the club hadn't seen for many years which is why so many fans wanted him sacked. Is that what you think Shankly did?
Yeh Wenger really just seems to of lost his mind. Such simple decisions and he refuses to make them. Goes to show that long term complacency does play a big part.
That is actually a good comparison, as Arsenal built the Emerates, and Wenger lost his transfer budget. This year Fergie had to pull that stunt with Rooney to get the Glasers to give him a bit of money, lets see how Fergie does in the next few years, that he is limited with his spending, we can see it has already eaten away at the team to a fair old extent, but they are still able to hold out at this time. But I see the next three years as the true measure of Fergie as a manager, as other teams get more money and he gets less, lets see if he can maintain the dynasty, or if he will follow Brian Clough down the toilet with his reputation.
He took a team going nowhere fast and took them to highest heights. those first 4 years were all about cleaning out the old ways and starting fresh. Luckily for United we didnt sack him. A lesson not learnt by any other club since and yet Fergie continues to repay United.
Hes had the glazers since 2005, chelsea have been money bags since 2003 and city have had billionaire owners for 3 or 4 years now. Hes still maintained high levels of success. Infact the last marque signing was Berbatov in 2008. This season hes spent a good amount but its needed and it was expected. hes not bought for the sake of buying for years.
Actually no he didn't get him banned, he tried to but wasn't allowed. Also if you hold a press conference and clearly state at the start of it you will not be taking questions on Ryan Giggs and are here to talk about the game then the 1st question is from some cock clearly ignoring what you said then I don't see anything wrong with SAF having a problem with that. Or do you think a manager should talk about their players private lives or press conferences ? Or maybe they should try and protect their players ? In regards to the morale high ground you are taking, I'm sure there are some books out currently in regards to gangsters in football in which Kenny features in a fair bit
Ken wants to take Liverpool back above United though so by that measure hes clearly obsessed isnt he? Or is he aiming at the top dog in order to become top dog himself?
Sometimes you have to go backwards before you can go forwards. You can't deny that they both built empires at their respective clubs ?
