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  1. xLuKeYx

    xLuKeYx Member

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    I haven't claimed anything about the swans other than you owed Ipswich money.

    You payed them, all the proof I need...

    Whereas you still haven't proved I said that you owed the council money, or anything to do with your mythical 16K.

    The master at making **** up preaching to us about facts and proof...you couldn't make it up...well, Jager probably could <ok>
     
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  2. Blue Prophet

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    The facts are Swansea have gone into admin TWICE and ripped people off,,,,,,,,,,,Cardiff fans chucked money into your begging buckets




    how do you like those FACTS
     
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  3. Jager

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    It was you who said that if the swans were paying rent that other services wouldn't be cut under the council, wasn't it ? Indicating that was it was a debt, then yet again you changed your fiction to something else.

    And thank you for continued interest in wales best club ;)
     
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  4. Jager

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    And you accuse me of not putting facts now you are going to give proof that the club went into admin twice, now don't let your lies get in the way of truth!
     
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  5. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Are you truly this thick Jager? Despite the crap you keep spouting, we're not bloody interested in your club. This is an article started on our board by another Jack that you've locked on to.

    You are the one quoting "FACTS" about Swansea City FC, no one else. Other than a blogger's offering, you have not got a shred of evidence to support your claim of the 16,000 attendance trigger for the rent that you are posting as a "FACT".

    Lukey has taken you to the cleaners on the issue and you seem too thick to back off and admit your "FACT" is nothing more than speculation. You really are making yourself look a bigger pillock by the minute, but then again, carry on entertaining us - you're one big joke.

    If you can produce official info on the matter, I'm sure we'll all acknowledge the FACT - until then, pipe down on the subject.

    On the proof of "admin twice" matter, don't split hairs, CVAs amount to the same thing - you get away without paying your creditors in full (in other words peanuts) as opposed to usually nothing at all to the unsecured in admin.

    Cardiff City have never been in admin nor had to opt for a CVA - we are paying our debts without copping out.
     
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  6. Jager

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    Yes but you have had the revenue chasing you for debts to them, entered into creditor agreements to pay a reduced amount of debts, your club is nowhere near whiter than white, prophet saying we were in admin twice is not true, also basically saying that the swans ripped people off is another lie, the people running the club at that time ripped people off, is it my fault that happened ? Because I am in the supporters trust who own 20% of the club, is it my fault that past creditors were not paid ?

    Come on you like giving it large on here behind your anonymous profile on here, now do you blame me as a current owner of the club albeit a tiny part , and that I should give prophet some of his alleged rent back
     
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  7. DaiJones

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    Fu*king Hel*, how thick can you get.

    Words fail me.
     
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  8. Blue Prophet

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    Jager how hard is this to understand

    SSCFC owed me money, they couldn't/ wouldn't pay their bills, and so used a legal device to avoid paying me............**** happens, that's business then swansea do it AGAIN once is a mistake twice is a rip off I'm as stupid as you for trusting scfc...................at least I didn't trust them twice.


    How you can hold up swansea fc as a model of fiscal propiety,
    is a mystery your club ripped people off. Our new Malaysian owners have honoured debts that were accumulated by a past regime..............scfc have taken the "it wasn't me" attitude.

    Your club owes people money...................they may have dodged paying it, by the use of a legal device, but morally they owe the money. people have realised that they have more chance of getting manure from a rocking horse than money out of Hoo Gherkins. Your club has lied and cheated to avoid paying your bills.........and to hold yourself up as WONDERFUL well frankly it stinks you are a bunch of cheats and liars, take that on board then you may have some credibilty



    DID SWANSEA GO INTO ADMI
    N yes

    DID SWANSEA GO INTO ADMIN AGAIN yes


    DID CARDIFF CITY FAN'S PASS THE BEGGING BUCKETS AROUND TO HELP KEEP YOUR CLUB IN EXISTENCE?
    yes

    I sometimes wonder why we bothered
     
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  9. Jager

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    Once again a pile of bullshit, basically telling lies you show me where the club went into admin twice, you can't because we never did, you are just rehashing crap I don't believe for one minute that any money was ever due to you, going on your track record of bullshit , you show me proof that I have any moral obligation to pay you anything.

    And just to tell you no it wasn't me who ran up debts and trying to sell the club down the swanny , it was convicted criminals doing that, and there is obligation either legally or morally to pay past alleged debts run up by a then owners, you want the current owners to be responsible for past debts, so treated differently than habitat, diamond coaches, casey roofing, rover, general motors or a multitude of other companies, thanks for clarifying that.

    You know that cheese you really should shove it down your gob, it will hopefully make you shut up instead of making an idiot of you!
     
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  10. It'sChicoTime

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    Wow.

    Another thread that's exceeded over 150 replies....Talking about? The mighty Swansea City.

    You boys making the move up the M4?
     
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  11. Xsnaggle

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    Jeger ****e, your interpretation of who owes what is very selective. You insist that the current owners are not responsible for the old debts but take delight in shouting about how the Malasians owe Sam 30 million. So which is right?
    They have settled all the previous debts except Sam's which is in dispute. The only reason the jacks aren't liable for the old debts is because the renaged on them through the courts.
    You say they didn't go into admin twice, and again technically you are right, but they have renaged on their debts twice, and they have paid pennies in the pound twice.
    Now you tell us they haven't.
    Forget previous owners or some criminal, lets talk about Swansea football club which by rights shouldn't exist because of the number of people it owes money to and has no intention of ever compensating.
    If new owners wanted to begin a new club they should have given it a new name, like Gower Renagers or something. If you take the name you take the baggage.
    When you spout all your **** you still know in your head that they did let all those people down, and most of them were jacks just like you.
    we only bailed you out.
    now do as I asked you many times.
    Go away!
     
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  12. snlk/poksnbn

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    Jager!
    I've said it before and I'll say it again,you are a hypocrite of the highest order.You come on this site with your please don't abuse me attitude and all I have read recently is you abusing others on the CARDIFF site.You say you only post on this site when your club is mentioned so why did you post on a visitors safe standing thread in such an aggressive manner when there was a thread of the same nature on the swansea board?

    By the way this,you are only posting on this thread because it's about swansea jibe you keep throwing our way,is totally transparent.It's simply a safety net to fall back into.You are being shredded consistantly by many Bluebird posters.Do yourself a favour stop posting and save a modicum of respect.

    Don't post a reply.
     
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  13. It'sChicoTime

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    Xsnaggle, calm down.

    I think you need to get your facts right aswell fella.

    You lot spout of that we've been into admin twice, then say technically we havn't. Make your mind up eh.
     
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  14. Jager

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    I don't take any delight on the debt you owe, unlike you who delight in saying the swans owe money despite the fact that it's bullshit, we owe nothing at all its in the accounts all debts and credits we have.

    And when you mention people who were creditors, while some no doubt were , the majority of the debts were to companies that legally offset debts against tax, now how will they quantify money that you want us to pay two decades after the fact, also do these companies even exist now?

    The whole point of Ltd companies that owed the swans is to limit liabilities and give a legal identity, now you want to throw hundreds of years of that because you think we should be liable, tell me how would the club be able to put that on their books now?

    You obviously have no concept how business is run, probably because you have been an employed person, or probably never worked all your life and have no clue!
     
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  15. It'sChicoTime

    It'sChicoTime Well-Known Member

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    Meh - Think Jager just answered that one very well.

    Take that boys!! Hehe.
     
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  16. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Ash they don't do facts mate, just abuse and crap , they don't understand business probably because they either have never entered the workforce to learn about it, or more than likely on benefits of some kind!
     
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  17. It'sChicoTime

    It'sChicoTime Well-Known Member

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    Jager - my two year old nephew has a bigger brain so its understandable lol.
     
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  18. snlk/poksnbn

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    Jager!
    Yet again you abuse others on the CARDIFF board then cry foul when others react.
     
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  19. It'sChicoTime

    It'sChicoTime Well-Known Member

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    ITIWRAN - Did Jager mention names in his post? Did he mention Cardiff? He could be talking about Wrexham.

    IIRC, didn't you used to WUM ALOT on 606, especially on the Swans board? What goes around, comes around. Get used to it.
     
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  20. snlk/poksnbn

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    jackash!

    Better you say nothing m8.You do jager no favours whenever you comment believe me. <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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