Mafia 4

OK here's my take on it, if I'm right it would be a fairly sensible reason, but we have to make some assumptions (as usual).

The key to this is what an investigation entails, here is the original post:

JOURNALIST - Can perform investigations and writes for the town newspaper which is delivered after 10am.

DETECTIVE – Can perform investigations.

INVESTIGATIONS - An investigator can follow their target for the day to discover their activities. If recruited by the mafia they retain their abilities.

So it is purely following someone and seeing what they are up to. E.g. if I am an assassin and they follow me, they will only finger me as an assassin if I try to kill someone, if I don't do anything they'll think I'm innocent. This is a key point, if I understand it correctly.


So here are the activities by day, and the resulting newspapers:

Night 1:
We now don't know if the Mafia hacker was used.
We know the Mafia Recruiter has not done anything yet (we would have seen the number of Mafia increase).
Certainly the Recruiter and Assassin were not used.
Perhaps the Heavy was to be used, but was lynched before he could lean on someone.

Paper Day 2 (based on night 1):
Lucaaas has been found to NOT be part of the Mafia or Freemasonry.


Night 2:
Certainly the assassin was used to kill Mito the detective.
We now don't know if the Mafia hacker was used.
Certainly the recruiter (Lucaas) tried to recruit the trigger happy Milk, leading to the accusations etc.

Paper Day 3 (based on night 2):
Mummy has been found to be, and have always been, just a regular town folk.
In other news, Lucaaas is still a full-kit w**ker and also a member of a secret society dedicated to depraved acts with badgers.


Night 3:
Recruiter gets lynched, so no activity by him.
Assassin kills Billy, who is innocent, so at least the mafia are just killing randoms and did not know anything for certain.
We now don't know if the Mafia hacker was used.

Paper Day 4 (based on night 3):
The first night of the investigation, Lucaaas was tailed and nothing suspicious was noted.
The second night's paper was the subject of a cyber-terrorist attack...
... leading us to discover (during our second investigation) that the Mafia Hacker is in fact Bodanki.
third night found that Swarbs also displayed no suspicious behaviour.
Then a bunch of stuff about hidden powers to get us worrying and talking.


My theory on this, see if you agree:
EDIT: The paper was ONLY hacked on night 2 (day 3), or on night 3 (day 4), the latest paper.

On night 1, Lucaaas was followed, but since he did not recruit anyone he was presumed innocent. Clearly based on the OP the journo can only go on what he sees, so as we know that the no of mafia have never increased he could not have done anything, and so was presumed innocent.
The OP says about freemasons: "Freemason membership or initiation is invisible to investigations." s I don't think the bit about badgers is referring to the masons, I think it's just a dig at Lucaaas.

On night 2, Milk was followed. We know Milk defended himself against the recruiter, Lucaaas and a shootout occurred. Either A. he was shown as innocent to the journo because he did not actively go out and shoot someone vigilante-style, or B. the journo found out he was vigilante but kept it quiet to protect him from the mafia. I'm guessing it was not revealed to the journo that the shootout with Lucaaas was because he was trying to recruit him, because then the journo should have fingered Lucaaas in his article.
I think the similar writing style and the the reference to Lucaaas still being a badger abusing loony is a hint that it is still the same reporter and was not hacked, although he clearly still thought Lucaaas was innocent then.

On night 3, hacker hacks the paper and tries to muddy the waters. Throwing in the secret powers will make us wary and take away focus from finding them... Or he's telling the truth, who knows!

EDIT: I think the journo might well have been hacked on night 2 as they say, which means Bodanki might be the hacker.

All that talk about secret powers is due to what happened on day one, which is explained by my theory rather than 'secret powers'.

I must say I'm leaning more towards hacking on night 2, and that the last article is correct, meaning Bodanki is the hacker. The one thing that's bothering me though is why oh why would Bodanki say that "Mummy has been found to be, and have always been, just a regular town folk." It makes no sense to target Milk, and I'm guessing that since the deadline for articles is 10am that he would have been fully aware via Lucaaas that Milk is the vigilante. Surely fingering someone else as Mafia would have been the smart move?

 

Interesting theory about the investigations. Not 100% sold, but certainly worth bearing in mind.

 

Its the whole sequence of numbers thing as well.
If a mafia hacked todays paper, then that could be insurance that if one of the two mafioso is put up tonight, they can blag their way out with the whole sequence of numbers thing.
That would ensure people change their minds off them and vote for someone else, its insurance to make sure both mafioso make it through tonights lynching.
If we lynch a townie AND they assassinate someone, then that it becomes 5-2. But then we would know the identity of the hacker, when he reveals his whole 1:0 2:1 thing, so next night we kill that hacker and the assassin kills someone and its 4-1.
Then those 4 are left to sniff out the assassin which will be a 1 in 5 shot. Bearing in mind that presumably every night they get it wrong, he can also assassinate someone as well.

 

Except (assuming they're still alive) they'll know it's not TB and most probably not Milk.

 

Which SHOULD give us the advantage, plus the 2 masons will know its not each other too.
I hope to god they have recruited Milk, because this may go down to the wire otherwise.

 

WTF...???!!!!


What happened to #allaboutgreez

 

I think as long as we (the town) do nothing stupid, we should be able to see this through. Of course, it would help if people actually did stuff.

I can see the mafia forcing the issue and making an attempt on TB or Milk at some point...

 

Gone and long forgotten.

 

You tried to murder someone....yourself.
So the vigilante capped you for being a murderer?

 

I wasn't allowed to top myself

My plan was working but for Milk killing me too #teflon

 

I'm thinking of voting Bodanki.

Either way once he's lynched we'll know which paper was hacked and which wasn't.

A. If he is the hacker, there's only the assassin left, and we know Swarbs is not the assassin so an extra innocent. EDIT and Nozzer is innocent too as he was in jail as the paper was hacked.
B. If he is innocent, then the last article was hacked. Not much upside to that I guess, except hope they can't hack 2 days in a row and the journo comes up with his own code the next day in his article, with the info that should have appeared in this paper.

I'm not too sold on the Bodanki idea, you can still convince me of another plan!

 

Was hinking of switching to Bodanki just to put some pressure on him (he would be well out in front then).

 

hahaha, inconsequential

 

Well I can certainly understand suspicion around me increasing with that ****ing article
But also bear in mind that we are running out of townies, and dont want to keep losing them whilst the mafia sit back and just assassinate every night.

At best I am the hacker and its the assassin we really want.

 

I still think we can win that way- 100% guaranteed. I'll repost how.

Let's just say "Maybe"...

Me neither. I got extra bullets- I tend to think that the Hacker got extra hacks. Original post says that after a hack the journalist can update security to prevent another hack.

Doesn't say Hacker can't then rehack new security. I'd suspect that the paper can be hacked more than once- but not two days in a row. I'd hold off on Bodanki for now until we see tomorrows paper.

Just a thought... what if there is no journalist. What if Astro is the journalist?

Or. What if the journalist only has a 50% success rate in investigating?
It said I was "Regular Townie" - obviously I'm not - I have a role.

Says they get one hack before Journalist updates security.

My thoughts too.

 

Very reasonable explanation. All in all though- we don't know. Bodanki MIGHT be the hacker... I'd say we wait until tomorrow- see if the paper says anything about being hacked today.


Ultimately though, I don't care about the hacker. It's the assassin we need to find and kill. Killing the hacker would take away one vote for them but wouldn't end the game.

Once we kill the assassin it is impossible to lose. (unless they get some other recruit... which no evidence that they do).

AFC, Danilo. or Valley IMO.

One of those three is the assassin. I'm leaning towards AFC or Danilo.

 

Re: Astro as journalist, the OP says:

JOURNALIST - Can perform investigations and writes for the town newspaper which is delivered after 10am.

Given that Astro has no need to perform investigations, it presumably isn't him (I like the idea though). It also implies that the journalist ("investigators") can be recruited by the mafia; I really hope Astro hasn't been recruited!

 

Ok I'm changing my vote away from Bodanki, and to No Lynch for now.

Like you guys say, assassin is more important, and if the paper was hacked last night we should get clarification tomorrow, hoping that they can't hack 2 days in a row.

Milk, I think we should consider co-ordinating the vigilante, journo and arrest, in case two or more of us go for the same person!

 

Bodanki might be the assassin. They could be trying a hiding in broad daylight thing. But I take the point about waiting til the morning paper, even though we're really not sure of the paper at the moment.

afc has been suspected by various people throughout the game without coming under any real pressure. We could try an AFC / Danilo 50/50.

 

Intense stuff going on.