Mafia 4

Well that makes things far more difficult to figure out, I'm now totally confused as to what information can be taken as reliable.

If the mafia can recruit without us knowing and recruited lucaaas after the first day when the paper revealed him as innocent and wasn't hacked then that means others could have been converted since then.

And if the mafia have some sort of power to confuse our findings then everyone is suspicious again....

Can't wait to here people's theories now rofl!

 

Of those three, at first glance I would discount number 2. Milk's ability to identify Lucaaas so accurately, and the failure of anyone else to come forwards as the vigilante, means he must be the vigilante. Either that or the town is being betrayed by the actual vigilante, in which case balls.

If we accept Milk is the vigilante, then we accept Lucaaas is the recruiter, or at least that he had the power to recruit on night 2. Otherwise why would he approach Milk and try to recruit him? Which indicates that either he wasn't recruited on night 1, or the Mafia can switch powers from one member to the other, and also use those powers immediately. If this is the case, then the Mafia is so powerful that they have no chance to lose this game, so again balls.

Of the other two, I would say that number 1 is the most likely. I reckon the Mafia have a power similar to the 'don' power from the last game, which allows them to hide one person from investigation each night. They used it on Lucaaas the first night, as he was the recruiter so the most important target to protect. Possibly also last night as well, which explains why he was found to be mafia with no known role when we lynched the batard.

This does of course raise the question of whether we can trust the finding that Bodanki is the hacker. It also raises the question of whether the current article is a hack, which is something to cover in the next post...

 

The ****?!
I am not the ****ing hacker....at all!!
Thats total bullshit.....

 

Somethings ****ed here.
If the second nights paper was the one that was hacked, and the first wasn't, then why the **** did the first article claim Lucaas was innocent when he was mafia?
Either the mafia can fool the journalist, or the journalist is in cahoots with them somehow.
I dont trust the journo 0% after this, because the latest article is total bullshit.

 

I'm not inclined to trust the current paper tbh.

If the Mafia were going to hack the paper on night two, why would they hack it to say Milk is a townie with no special role? Seems a waste of a hack tbh, especially because they would have submitted it before Milk accused Lucaaas of being Mafia.

It's possible the most recent paper was a hack, designed to encourage us to lynch / be suspicious of Bodanki, and also cast caution over the identity of the journo. That sequence of numbers could well be used by one of the Mafia in the future to claim that they are the real journo. So when the journo is up for lynch and tries to defend themselves the Mafia will use the hacked paper to try and get them lynched. It means the Mafia loses a member, but also means we lose the journo first.

 

Nozzer stumbles down the steps of the police station, and glares blinkingly into the sunlight. He rubs his mouth where it burns from the tape having just been ripped off, then circles his now-free wrists. Seeing a puddle nearby, he runs to it, cupping mouthfuls of water. Slowly readjusting to the outside world, he buys a sandwich and the morning paper from a newsboy, before heading to the nearest bar to drink to fallen friends and work out how to defeat the town’s scourge.

 

What's the current voting table anyone?

 

He also heads straight to the nearest pharmacy to buy a couple of litres of Johnson's baby oil, as his ring piece now resembles one of Gareth Bale's ears

Dunno what the current votes are tbh, can't even remember who I voted for last night!

 

Current votes. Check for mistakes.

danilo (1) Mummy
Nozzer (1) afcftw
Valley (2) Swarbs, Bodanki

Not voted: danilo, Nozzer, RHC, Sir Tennisball, Valley

 

This is horrible news, not only because I have been incorrectly fingered as mafia, splicing our suspicion yet again, but think about it, the journalist hasnt released a single article with a shred of truth in it.

Day 1: Lucaas is innocent. That was bullshit, we lynched him and he was mafia
Day 2: Milk is just a townie. Bullshit again, MITO investigated him and he is the vigilante
Day 3: Bodanki is Hacker. Strike 3. Im a townie.

Maybe we aren't made aware of mafia recruitment or the mafia have some other ability to fool the journo, because thats some proper Rupert Murdoch type **** there.

 

As far as I'm aware, all information that Astro gives is correct (if not necessarily complete). Therefore I think we can safely say that there are only two mafia. I think fooling the journo is more likely.

 

Read the OP again and it clearly states the mafia get ONE hack.
So how come we have had 3 bullshit articles?
Either they can get more hacks, which would be Bullshit, I am all for secret rules, but to explicitly state they get 1 hack if they get more than 1 is bullshit, all the other secret stuff, like Milks pistol Lucy was just not mentioned, if it had said explicitly Milk DOESNT get a pistol and he did, that would be bullshit.

Again, with the mafia's recruitment and assassinations, it doesnt say they they get a certain amount, its just vague (so it's a secret), but it says they get ONE HACK, so why do we have 3 bullshit articles? This makes no sense.

I am going to go for Astro putting in a big twist that the paper has been mafia owned this whole time or something, or they have an ability to fool or bribe them or something....

 

Like I said above, my personal view is that the Mafia have a transferable 'don' ability, like in the last game. So every day they can hide one of their players from investigation.

It was Lucaaas the first day, so the paper said he was innocent
On day two the journo may have reported Milk as a regular townie as they didn't want to finger him as the vigilante and get him killed
The paper may have been hacked today, as the style of writing seems different and the amount of confusing info in there is too much for the actual journo to want to put in imo

 

I'm thinking that we essentially ignore the paper for now and stick to what we know and already suspected for the moment. I suggest we stick with voting patterns and try and flush mafia out. I've already made my feelings on afcftw known, but to make it a two-way, I'm going with Danilo for now.

Also, just to point out the TB is known innocent and I would still class Milk as pretty-much known innocent. That means that 2 from 7 are mafia, i.e. based on random probability, there is a 2 in 7 chance of the remaining people being mafia. However, you now know that I'm not the assassin, so there's only a 1 in 6 chance of me being mafia (I think), and even if I am, I'm not the more important person. Apart from afcftw, there's also been little open suspicion about me anyway. Therefore, while I'm happy to take one for the team if need be, I'd suggest I'm not the best target for lynching.

 

"Can replace the journalist's article with their own one. This only works once and then the journalist updates their security."

Doesn't say that they can't at some point work out how to hack the new security.

 

Every night though?
whats the point of the security update if they can just keep re hacking?
3 BS articles........
If the hacker can just keep re hacking every night and keep feeding us false info it makes the journo role redundant.

 

I presume not every night; more likely they need one night to hack the system. I imagine there's more than one factor at work here.

 

Maybe they hacked night one. Lucaas is innocent when he wasnt
Night 2 wasnt hacked and journo didnt reveal Milks role to protect him. Security was hacked
Night 3 they hack again saying I am Hacker.

Again, would be nice if the journo could reveal himself....so i can headbutt him I mean so he can confirm I am innocent.

 

So, nothing much happening today either then. May suggest the mafia aren't too bothered right now, are just sitting it out, or it's just that no-one's online. We could do with some more votes to start pushing people out in front a bit more and put more pressure on the front runners.

 

Current votes. Check for mistakes.

danilo (2) Mummy, Nozzer
Nozzer (1) afcftw
Valley (2) Swarbs, Bodanki

Not voted: danilo, RHC, Sir Tennisball, Valley