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So qatar found not guilty in world cup inquiry, but england to be punished

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  1. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    The forum dies when the mafia game is on <laugh>

    I guess its slow anyway on international breaks but the mafia game just makes it worse.
     
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  2. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Not just the forum, but also stinky mafia. And several lovely innocents.

    Maybe we should just get everyone on the board involved in a mammoth game...
     
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  3. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Best bit about the Qatar bid was the imaginary technology for air conditioning stadiums. Brilliant!

    No sorry I forgot about the fact that the stadium where the final is to be played doesn't exist! So what I hear you say that's the norm and they can build it?

    The city around it also doesn't exist. :)
     
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  4. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    This is Qatar, they will build it <ok>
     
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  5. danilo.

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    I would like all nations that bribed their way to anything punished. If that includes England, so be it. It's a fact that everyone bribes or attempts to - and this is wrong. So many people joke that they should just have offered more or that it isn't a big deal. Well if you're morally offended by corruption then England's attempt is morally wrong. Just because it was a smaller sum doesn't mean it's not bribery. Australia was caught doing it too. Probably the USA as well. For that reason I wish we could simply kick all the offending nations out until they learn their lesson. Give the World Cup to a smaller nation that tried to do it fairly or if none did, then hold the process again and do it fairly. If you don't have the 90,000 stadium capacities needed, no big deal. I'd rather have it in a smaller nation with less infrastructure than in a big nation with a huge budget for bribery. So what if you can't accommodate everyone?
    Bring the game back to its roots.

    Not going to happen though. All the people outraged aren't angry at the fact that Qatar bribed everyone, they're angry because Qatar bribed everyone better than they did. Which is hypocritical.
     
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  6. mighty_stevie_g

    mighty_stevie_g Well-Known Member

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    A nice notion but unfortunately the roots will never be brought back - football is an absolute cash cow and with that comes corruption, bribery etc that is so blatant it is laughable but it's brushed under the carpet because there is too much money at stake.
     
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  7. Tobes

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    So the FIFA commissioned inquiry into corruption within FIFA concludes that there's nothing to see here and it's in fact their prime accusers i.e. England who are really the bent ones.........

    <laugh>

    Shocker that like, Turkeys don't for Christmas and all that, but do they seriously expect people to swallow this bullshit?

    Blatter trying to take the football World for mugs again, laughable that this self serving prick is still holding the reigns of the game.

    We should tell FIFA to get ****ed and leave it.
     
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  8. astro

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    Mark Palios has just spoken to Radio 5 live about the allegations the English FA "damaged the image of Fifa" in the bidding process for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.
    Palios, the former chief executive of the FA (pictured right with ex-England boss Sven Goran Eriksson), said: "One has to put a bit of perspective around this. When the FA is judged in this they'll be judged against other FAs, who may well not have come under as much scrutiny because they simply haven't given evidence.
    "I understand the Russians wiped all their computers.
    "I think Fifa will be quite pleased at the embarrassment this has caused the English FA, because the FA has always been seen as a thorn in their side."





    <laugh>

    #seemslegit
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    nah i think he is mafia.... but in thier game the ALL are mafia, its just a question of which one.
     
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  10. Krome

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    They were saying on the radio this morning that Garcia wasn't allowed to subpeona anything, so the only evidence was whatever was offered up voluntarily...
     
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  11. Didn't realise you wasn't allowed to post at all <laugh>
     
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  12. Its not been too bad this time. Biscan, MITO and I are able to keep the place going on our own :p
     
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  13. astro

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  14. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Thats why its such a joke, don't want the lie to get caught out so just lie to the investigator. If the FA have be stupid enough to offer up some information when they didn't have to, believing other FA's would be honest as well, then they don't understand the world they are working in.
    If fifa claim this report is anything more than lip service and that it clears certain FA's then they're fooling themselves, the Russian FA didn't even give any information as it all 'got lost' FFS!

    Even the lead investigator is now calling the report as Wrong.
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    i've been on and off. jimmys tactics articles were good.

    if we had peopel who gave a stuff about england i SUPPOSE we could have an article about that and go there but i just don't care.

    We miss rhc and the cheese. that boss of his has ****ed us up there.

    even a snail article would be good.
     
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  16. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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  17. ImpSaint

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    England will never boycott a world cup etc. It just won't happen.

    I would say they probably wish they could but FIFA are just waiting for a reason to take the 4 home nation's seats from the 8 man rules board!!!

    This is why the GB football team has been a problem for so many years. The home nations worried not just that FIFA may only let a GB team participate from there on in tournaments but also that they would lose the control they have over the rules.
     
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  18. Germlands Nozzer

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    Fifa report 'erroneous', says lawyer who investigated corruption claims
    The findings of Fifa's inquiry into allegations of corruption during bidding for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups have been questioned - by the man who conducted the two-year investigation into the claims.

    In an unexpected twist, lawyer Michael Garcia says the report "contains numerous materially incomplete and erroneous representations of the facts and conclusions".

    The 42-page report cleared both Russia and Qatar, who will host the 2018 and 2022 tournaments, of wrongdoing.

    It also accused the English Football Association of flouting bid rules and damaging Fifa's image.

    Fifa, the body that governs world football, welcomed the report and said it brought closure to the damaging episode.

    But Garcia's statement, issued less than four hours after the report was published, reopens the debate about the validity of the bidding process for both the 2018 and 2022 competitions.

    It also raises concerns about Han Joachim Eckert, Fifa's independent ethics adjudicator, who wrote the report.

    Eckert, a German judge, based his report on the work of Garcia, who had been appointed by Fifa to conduct an independent investigation into claims of corruption.
     
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  19. Germlands Nozzer

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    Garcia's investigation allowed him to demand interviews with football officials, with those refusing subject to disciplinary action.[5] Garcia was not able to interview Mohammed bin Hammam, the former FIFA vice-president, as Hammam is banned for life from football activity.[5] Garcia's investigation remit extended solely to individuals who might have violated FIFA's code of ethics.[5] Garcia was expected to name individuals who refused to speak to him in his report.[5] Garcia has no ability to subpoena people to speak to him or to ask internet service providers for documents.[5] In his research for the report Garcia travelled to all the countries that bid for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments, with the exception of Russia due to the impact of American sanctions on the country.[4] Borbély investigated the United States owing to a potential conflict of interest as Garcia is an American citizen.[4]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garcia_Report
     
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  20. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    The English Football Association has hit back at FIFA's World Cup bidding report, after the findings criticised England's bid to host the 2018 World Cup.

    The report suggested that England's officials 'disregarded bidding rules' as they tried to win the support of former vice-president Jack Warner, giving the bidding process and FIFA a bad image.

    The FA has responded, saying that the bid was 'transparent' and that the body acted according to the rules during the time of bidding.

    "We note the FIFA ethics committee has today published a 42-page report in relation to the bidding processes for the World Cups in 2018 and 2022, a statement said on the FA's official website.

    "We were not given any prior notice of the report before publication. We do not accept any criticism regarding the integrity of England's bid or any of the individuals involved.

    "We conducted a transparent bid and, as the report demonstrates with its reference to the England bid team's 'full and valuable cooperation', willingly complied with the investigation. We maintain that transparency and cooperation around this entire process from all involved is crucial to its credibility.

    "We also note that after a lengthy investigatory process and assessment, the report has concluded that the 'potentially problematic facts and circumstances identified by the report regarding the England 2018 bid were, all in all, not suited to compromise the integrity of the World Cup 2018/2022 bidding process as a whole'."

    In the same report, Qatar were cleared of any wrongdoing and will go on to host the 2022 World Cup.
     
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