Ched Evans

I would have no issue with it, it would be a suicidal move financially, business-wise for the club, but on a moral level I wouldn't have a problem. Even if I believed he was guilty.

 

Really? I'm surprised they're allowed to do that. DO they still have to pay off the full rights?

 

Not sure mate, it's just been on the news, there could be something in the contract about appropriate corporate identity.

 

That will be that then I would have thought, no club will go near him with a barge pole.

 

i wouldnt want a convicted rapist representing my club! much the same way as i wouldnt want a convicted rapist in my house doing some plumbing, laying my carpet or insulating my loft!
i would feel really uncomfortable and probably unable to celebrating a goal scored by a convicted rapist! would he allow himself to celebrate with as much gusto as other players would!? i guess there will be some team mates (not all mind) who might have a problem playing in the same team as him. he would spend the rest of his career playing football rather sheepishly so i cant see how he can continue his career without causing problems for his club on and off the pitch! i cant see him being able to give 100% with this hanging over him so I'd be suprised if he continued at the level he is currently at! i have no issue with a released person wanting to carry on where they left off, but when it comes to football it would hurt too many peoples feelings in this case!

 

How do you know you've never had a convicted rapist laying a carpet, doing your electrics, building an extension, plastering, joinery, plumbing, reading your gas or electric meter, delivering your mail, or milk, making an Amazon or other parcel delivery, making your bread, catching your fish.......? Where do you draw the line?

If it was any of the above it wouldn't be in the national press and you wouldn't know about it. But because he's a footballer the Daily Fail are running a crusade against him. That's what wrong about this.

 

This to be honest. You are naive in the extreme if you think everyone you've had working for you doesn't have a criminal conviction in their past. Law of averages.

 

I'd wager there are also a lot of people out there with clean records who've been involved in all kinds of s**t and got away with it.

Nobody's perfect.

 

Absolutely correct.

 

The simple fact is that he is a convicted Sex Offender, who has shown no remorse whatsoever towards his victim.

The victim who has been publicly outed by his family and associates is still under Police Protection having had to change identities twice. But that's ok isn't it?

The victim of his crime is Conveniently forgotten by the Ched Evans as something akin to a piece of ****e on his shoes. As long as he can what he wants, why should he give a f***.

Footballers are role models for a lot of young people and if you think otherwise you need to get your head out of your a***. Some role model he makes.

Morally, I wouldn't want him anywhere near NUFC, and if he ever turned up on our steps, I would stop going to SJP.

 

^^^^

 

Your owner is one of the biggest users of zero hour contracts in the country. He's making millions on the backs of staff needing 2 or 3 jobs just to get by.

If you're going to talk about morals, don't pick and choose which ones make you feel more righteous and ignore those that should make you feel uncomfortable in defending.

 

Sleep easy, there's zero chance of him turning up at our place. I fully expect politicians to become involved in this saga very soon...either attacking or defending Evans. Their involvement will be final confirmation that this whole story is one big mess with no bloody winners.

 

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So true.

 

Whatever anyone thinks of Mike Ashley, as far as I am aware, he isn't a Rapist or have I missed something.
I don't pick and choose morals to make myself feel righteous.

If you feel that Rape is a righteous cause to defend, good on you, I have no doubt it'll help you sleep well at night.

 

I'm not defending rape at all JH, just read back through the thread and you'll know that's the case.

My issue is with the self-righteous press who pick and choose who to make examples of, mainly because of their status in society.

We are supposed to live in a society where, if you've been convicted of a crime and have served your sentence, then society has deemed you to have been punished and are now seen fit to return into that society and resume your life, as best you can.

Certain parts of the press seem intent on maintaining the punishment upon the individual after completion of sentence, in this instance Evans, because it offends their moral compass. And to me that is very wrong. The press shouldn't have or abuse this power of moral superiority.

My use of Ashley's business practices in my argument wasn't appropriate.

 

I'm not naive enough to think that I havnt had a ex con doing odd jobs around the house! However I know that Evans is a convicted rapist, so i wouldnt want him coming round and babysit for me! I just happen to think that being a footballer puts you in the spotlight, if you do something like Evans has done then he should just accept that he's ballsed up, accept his football career is over and train up to be a plumber or a plasterer or sweep bookies floors or summit and try to remain annonymous! Would Rolf Harris or Jimmy Savile (if convicted before his death) or Stuart Hall be allowed back on our tv screens after they've done their time? Nope, they would would have to look for a new occupation, an occupation that would have to be less of a privilage!
People with privilaged occupations that are in the media spotlight tend to accept that they lose the right to continue their position when they break the law and accept that as an occupational hazard! MP's fall on the sword when they've been naughty, Evans should too!

 

Agreed to an extent. Should a teacher that's served their time for possessing child pornography be allowed in a classroom again?

Status and occupation differ from pervert to pervert and as such this should be judged on a case by case basis.

 

The girl involved in this case never accused either man of rape.

She merely said she couldn't remember having sex with either of them.

The coppers charged them both after they admitted having sex with her.

There was no forensic evidence against either man

The man who went first got off and Evans went down, go figure.

The pontificating about this from many is toe curling. The fella has served his time (wrongly imo) and he should be allowed to get on with his life. What he does for a living is irrelevant

 

I disagree mate. I see no reason why those people shouldn't be allowed on our TV screens again. Whether any channel/company would be dumb enough to give them that, is another matter.

Slight difference in that a convicted *****phile working with kids is a direct risk, whereas I highly doubt we will ever see rape on a football field....aside from this, where in an ironic twist, Ched Evans is the victim of rape.

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