Mafia 4

I was the one pushing for Bisc all day first day It wasn't a bad tactic to suggest being leaned on but voting for Sky meant he had to be in the toss at least Had he said it later on it might have come as more of a bombshell that people didn't have time to get their head around. Doing it early was a recipe for getting talked about and discussed all day.

 

The bells

 

Bloody good job they aint invented smell for the internet yet lol

 

Both articles next to each other.

First note: Both mention specific roles; the first clarifies not mafia or freemason, the second says "just a regular townsfolk" i.e. no specific role. As hopefully at most one has been hacked, this implies that journalist may be able to see roles (not that they necessarily want to report them).

Second note: The second article neither confirms nor denies that Lucaaas is innocent. This may be a way of comunicating that the journalist cannot reveal this, it may be a poorly-worded attempt to confirm the previous article, or it may be hacked and the hacker didn't want to make the suggestion we made yesterday.

EDIT: Third note: The "always has been" in the second article is odd, because that would imply that the journalist finds out the history of the person. I would have thought they only know the current status at that time.

Alternative idea: Both Milk and Lucaaas are indeed innocent. Milk's playing a game to see what happens when he makes the revelation and to see how people act/vote in response. He may or may not believe Lucaaas to be mafia.

 

Anything important happened today since the newspaper?

 

I aslo said that if leaned on, you'd be better off waiting until later in the day (ie after 7.50pm) knowing if you get to the next day you can tell everyone after 10am anyway

 

Well, which ever way you look at it, I think Lucaas has to go, its the only way we'll know for sure.
If he goes and is a townie, then Milk is a goner tomorrow and we still have a 7-2 advantage.

If Lucaas is mafia then they lose their recruiter too, so we have crippled them and its just a case of sniffing out the remaining two.

So it's gotta be Lucaas

 

If the mafia can kill both nights, then it's a 5-2 advantage.

If they can recruit both nights, then it's a 5-4 advantage.

If they can do both both nights (last night they killed MITO and tried to recruit Milk), then it's a 3-4 deficit; mafia win.

EDIT: Last line not quite true, as the scenario assumes Milk is mafia and they didn't try to recruit. Always possible that they can do both both nights anyway though.

 

Conjecture, nothing concrete except Astro confirmed 8 townies and 3 mafia, so no conversion, and Sir Tennisball has taken over Sky's role as cop. And has since said nothing, so he's taken it on really well

 

To be fair, if that's the case then the Mafia will win regardless. Even if we can identify the Mafia, they can recruit to replace their losses and kill us off at the same time.

Ultimately we either believe Milk or Lucaaas, and whichever one we kill the Mafia will likely win if they can recruit and assassinate on the same day every day.

 

After arriving from the mainland I've been given a crash course in the goings-on of this little incestuous island you call home. The sooner we wrap up this Mafia threat the sooner I get to go back to civilisation.

My thoughts as things stand:

Part 1:
The most dangerous Mafia role is the Recruiter.
Biggest danger is that he recruits someone with a specialised role, like the journalist.

Other than that he actually swings the vote to their side, so unlike the assassin that causes the town to lose 1 vote, the recruiter causes the town to lose 1 vote and mafia to gain one. So if the town vs mafia is 4-3, an assassin can only make it 3-3, while the recruiter can make it 3-4.

It's a bit like Arsenal really, if you think about it. You know how they sell their best players to their rivals? That's just like the recruiter...
And how they lose all their matches against their rivals? So not only do they lose out on 3 points, but they gift 3 points to their rivals for a 6 point swing.

Part 2:

Will a reporter be able to tell if someone is a free mason?
Day 2's article indicates so, but we don't know if it was hacked. I've got a few theories around the freemasons that I'll keep to myself for now until some more info is known about them, I don't want to say the wrong thing in case it helps the Mafia.

Part 3:

Let's assume only one of the articles was hacked. The wording in the first one seems to me to be the more likely one to be the hacked article.

Maybe I'm being naive but putting "I bet he wishes he was Mafia instead" at the end seems like a bit of wummery to stroke their own ego, to show how clever they are etc. And there was a lot of detail in that article, with emphasis on the "found to NOT be part of the Mafia or Freemasonry."

I guess we'll only know once the next article comes out to see what the journalist' regular writing style is, but I'm leaning towards the first one being hacked, which means Lucaaas may well be guiilty. I can't explain why the second one does not refer to it, unless it's a secret rule or it was hacked as well.

 

I've been compiling my case notes!!!

 

How do you guys want to handle my arrest of someone? Do you want to debate it with me, and risk the Mafia figuring out what we're going to do, or leave it up to me to do solo?

 

Hopefully Astro designed the game so that we can win. In which case, the mafia either have limited conversions/kills, or can only do one per night. In the second case, given that we know that MITO died, then that casts doubt on Milk's story (which then doesn't explain how Gerrez died).

 

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Good question. Not sure yet tbh. Of course, you don't have to actually do what we agree publicly...

 

Didn't do a very good job

 

It certainly wasn't by bloody lynch #toflen

 

Can we not assume that if they could kill every night, they would have done so? No one was assassinated on the first night right?
Also, if Lucaas is their recruiter (which, if Milk is telling the truth , he is) then if we take him out they wont be able to recruit anyone either.

 

I have not had my traditional parting I'm dead f you all note yet.

astro am i allowed post such a thing? I ask respectfully despite the numerous non playing comments etc