James McClean

It's estimated that the Soviet Union lost around 29 million people during WWII (12 million soldiers, 17 million civilians). The Wehrmacht were mostly responsible for the death of Red Army soldiers on the Eastern Front, and they probably killed some civilians during the invasion of the Soviet Union. The majority of the civilian deaths in the Soviet Union during WWII are attributed to Stalin because of famine and terror inflicted by the state. Stalin had a previous reputation of killing his own people, and the Holodomor was evidence of this.

The Russians lost a lot of people, and the men who fought in the Red Army on the Eastern Front were very, very brave. However, they were poorly trained and essentially marched to their death by the Communist government in Moscow. Stalin used the Red Army and his people as cannon fodder, and he didn't give the slightest **** about their lives.

He was far worse than Hitler.

 

The Irish are known cowards.

The only way they'll fight ye is when yer back is turned or if they can slip an explosive device in yer pocket before running away (they might politely buy ye a pint before running oot the pub)

Cowards.

 

No bins on the tube because of the bomber c**ts.

 

well said you blue nosed orange ****.

 

Oh really?

In conclusion

Deaths caused by the result of direct, intentional actions of violence 7,420,379
Deaths of forced laborers in Germany 2,164,313
Deaths due to famine and disease in the occupied regions 4,100,000
Total 13,684,692

All as a direct consequence of Nazi actions. Stalin was a mega **** as the purges and pogroms of the post-war era proved, but by and large the Soviets can not be held accountable for the cataclysmic death toll they suffered in the war

 

Bollocks. That was a good movie

Yep. I know what you mean. Ivan conscripted and sent to death more than the rest of the allies combined.

Honour those men too. Poppy?

 

Don't forget the Celtic Park floodlights being used to guide German Bombers towards the secret Nazi Sub pens in Dublin.

 

The German's invented a completely new method of warfare combining aerial power and fast moving artillery that destroyed all in its path. The conventional tactics were ripped up, it takes armies time to adjust and they were always going to suffer a higher rate of casualties as a result.

You seem to think I have some sort of soft spot for Stalin, my gripe is that we have all these ceremonies about the brave landing etc. Yet Russian celebrations of particular pivotal events in the war get laughed at or are derided as triumphalist ****e or being used for political point scoring. The Russian's have more right than anyone to celebrate in what was achieved through their sacrifice while, like I mentioned, the Allies waited on the sidelines until the outcome was already foregone conclusion

 

Utter ****e - we have Hermann vs Ivan and both armies have the poshest accents known to man

 

Hitler was a monster so was uncle Joe, who was worse? Depends on your view, I personally don't think you could get a *** paper between them.

 

The ****s nearly got me with a bomb in a bin on the Old Brompton Road in Central London

Ok, it went off at the weekend when I was back home in Scotland, but I walked past it every week day at the time.

I still hold a grudge against the cowardly snivelling wee ****s.

They also bombed two other central London streets while I was in town

Cowards.

Is there anything more despicable than a coward? I think not.

Am no saying I'm any kind of big brave hard guy. I'm not. Am saying I despise cowards.

 

aren't you an ex proddy masonic filth bag?

 

I liked it

 

Not so long ago while Obama and Cameron were declaring on Normandy beaches that they were standing on the beachhead of victory in WW2, Putin and other Russian delegates attending (against their better judgement) were subsequently snubbed.
Now how many commemorations have these leaders attended in Russia? The country that made the D-Day landings possible.

Again, a matter of weeks ago Putin and delegates arrive in Serbia in the callous "provocative" act of remembering the lifting of the siege of Sarajevo

 

Ok, there wasnt constant war but they had been fighting large battles on and off since around 1930

 

I would not be too partial for my own elected representatives to send me a letter telling me to go to France in a boat and run out into machine gun fire .
If the Germans invaded Britain I would happily take up arms and fight but f** going over to save a bunch if ungrateful frogs and the great grandfathers of the c**ts that invaded London and stole all the Casino jobs.
Not bitter at all.