Exactly!! The problem isn't the system - it's the fact that certain players are just mediocre. Someone said this and it sounds harsh but it's completely true: Johnson and Skrtel are the poison in the defence. 2 fixtures in our defence over the past 4 years which has seen mediocre league positions (bar last season but that success was not down to them) since they became first teamers.
With regards to Klopp: Yes, the team have been struggling with resutls in the league, but in several losses they were by far the better team but failed to put the chances away (a bit like us a couple of years ago). The fact that they're top of their Champions League group suggests that they're still very much capable when they put hteir minds to it. As does the fact that they beat Gladbach, who were third, yesterday. And he's wion the cup, two elagues and reached the Champion's League final. He's a decent manager. That said, I wouldn't be replacing Rodgers yet. Yes, there are obvious flaws with him and with us, but I'd give him this season to work on it. If things haven't improved in the summer then his position should be reviewed.
Let's as what he's done for Liverpool in the last 12 months: Tightened us up in defence? Made our Midfield more solid? Made us an attacking force without the amazing Suarez? (who couldn't make a team great with him in it?) Made us mentally strong? Bought wisely? It doesn't make pretty reading. Has he been found out? Being totally reliant on one player is very, very bad management. Has he been found out?
well last year was the best I have seen us play in a decade, and that wasn't just down to Suarez. That has to count for something?
Are you sure about that? Right now, you could easily argue that it was totally down to Suarez. A winning mentality like that rubs off. Just sayin'
only genuine match winner we had. he also motivated a few of them that was letting their heads drop, fecking miss him lol.
Well we performed without him, too. But every good team and good manager is also reliant on brilliant players. I think our form is down to a complete lack of confidence, had suarez stayed he would still have still been suspended but I doubt we would have been so poor - merely because him leaving has dented our confidence. Plus Rodgers has been s**te in the transfer market . EDIT: Let's also remember that we are missing a 20 goal a year striker at the moment too
Between SAS, Sterling, Coutinho and Henderson - they're the ones who literally carried this team last year. Everyone else was dross. But we lost our one true leader in the summer - he's the one who took the game by the scruff of the neck, and inspired us.
Our players aren't bad, if played correctly and utilised well we'd easily be closer to the top right now. The biggest problem by far is Rodgers stubbornness and idiocy, and his absolute failure to see our weaknesses and rectify them. If Rodgers suddenly quit and someone competent came in to manage the team properly, I think we'd do much better. That isn't to say I want Rodgers gone, but let's just say I wouldn't be sad about it. Getting very tired of the arrogance and ego. Arrogance and ego is fine if you're a great tactician, ala Mourinho, but not if you're a one season wonder thanks to the 3rd best player in the world and refuse to change your players because you're either scared of them (Gerrard) or are too thick to see how **** they are (Johnson, Lovren etc)
No arguments with that. Just don't think its as clear cut as KKK made out in that post. If Studge had been playing all season and we'd been as bad then fair enough but he hasn't. Studge is one half of SAS who got 52 of our 101 league goals last season!
Hmmm...it's a fair point. But yeah, Sturridge would not have scored so many without Suarez creating the chances for him, either in the form of assists or by creating acres of space for him. We could also manage him better, how many times did we haul Studge off after 80 minutes to protect him from injury? Obvioulsy, just my opinion
Agreed. I think he will most definitely improve our attack somewhat but that won't help the other issues in the team i.e. defence and DM - these 2 problems were evident last year but were masked by individual brilliance of SAS.
Some good points raised by the OP. I called the lack of experience in the coaching set-up a while ago. There's no relevant experience i.e. long term knowledge of what it takes to coach a PL team, let alone a CL team. They need experienced help. Last year's performance came a year [or even 2] too soon from both FSG's and the fans point of view, and so, even if that's the only reason, I would say BR's job is safe for now. Anybody know what John Henry's doing in Saudi? New investor/buyer maybe .....?
We just go in a completely different direction. If Rodgers were to be sacked we need someone in who follows the same philosophy.
Again, this is why we need a DoF who oversees this. They will ensure that players, staff etc can be replaced in line with the overall philosophy of the club.
