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Is Brendan Rodgers a big enough name to attract the very best?

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING, Nov 10, 2014.

  1. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    The best players want to play for the best managers....

    Look at Fabregas. He was very negative about Mourinho while at Barca.....but who's he playing for now?

    There's no coincidence that since his return to Chelsea, they've bought some monstrous talent at reasonable prices. It's because Mourinho is a proven winner...and that's what players at the very top want.

    Granted, location plays a part...but how much really? If Mourinho had rocked up as the boss at Anfield, would we really have any problems signing better players? I doubt it.

    So where does that leave us? BR has to be happy buying talent and proving to the world that, given time, he can mould players into even better players and a better team.....and slowly increasing his stock. That's if he's successful of course. We're playing the long game.

    Like it or lump it, that's the path, as a club, that we have chosen. Now we have to sit back and accept that we have to sit and wait for the results. We have to accept that even given another £100m to spend, we're unlikely to attract the very best. That BR is not yet (and may never be) a big enough name to attract top talent.

    Don't we?
     
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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    No he's not - despite an incredible season last year, he's still relatively an unknown in world football.

    That is why I believe we need a DoF with knowledge and experience of the European markets to help attract the bigger names.
     
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  3. Tobes

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    I see he's using London as his latest excuse for not buying top notch players.

    Someone ought to point out that Toure, Aguero, Silva, Falcoa, Eto'o and Di Maria don't seem to have a problem with the North West like......
     
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  4. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    that's more to do with their ridiculous wages <laugh>
     
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  5. <laugh> Better than Mario but still...<laugh>
     
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  6. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. Eto was so keen to come, he even had a plan B <laugh>
     
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    <laugh>

    #etooisworldclass
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I must say that the OP is right and so is tobes.

    the fact is LFC as a whole must attract players...............

    1. get into CL... do players flood clubs? nope.

    2. stay in CL.. do players flood clubs... nope arsneal prove that.

    3. give players a platform to win from, big wages and CL... oh yeah they come alright.


    LFc are not offering half the wages as utd..... now compared to most other clubs the wages are high but if the point is debating top players like fabrgas... or reus or whatever other big name is in fashion... then if you don't pay 175-200k minimum they'll move there it is paid.... if you offer sustained predictable CL as well? and a trophy on top... well who wouldn't play even for mourinho's straight jacket approach?

    dimaria and falcao went to utd for obvious reasons. vast sums of money and a big name manager who looks like the sort that'll put them back in CL. but... come on guys... LFc aint offer the wages and the bast we can say i... eh no we've won nothing under rodgers... eh.. not this is our first year in the prem... eh... will 70k per week do you... I'm sure ayre's have more than one phone line go dead on him.

    thats all IF you want top players

    Southampton prove you can buy well without a top name.

    LFC have prove you can buy poorly shopping at the top table then buying whats left.


    I think listing all the good buys we've made i nthe last 10-15 years you'd find a LOT are step up players.

    risse. 4.5mil from monaco.. hardly heard of.
    Hyppia...
    ffs suarez was a good name but nobody wanted him for obvious reasons.
    sturridge.. doubts on attitude and fitness (well proven by now)
    coutinho (despite in and out)

    I mean the list goes on... why focus on unrealistic names anyway... balotelli has to go down in my book as a bigger gaff by rodgers than aug 31 2012 when he sold carroll and got nobody in. Its a millstone round his neck that he won't get out of.
     
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  9. Sir Tennisball

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    I must be honest, I don't think it's great for a big club to be known as a club that's "great at developing talent", obviously that's fine for smaller clubs though... My issue is it seems to be that promising young players will happily go there, but will then want to jump ship to another club once they're nearer their peak, similar in a way to Arsenal.

    Note I'm not saying don't give youth a chance, but they should be supplementing the big names in the team, not be the big bright future of the club until they get sold for big money every summer.
     
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  10. I've already said I'd rather have gone into the season without a forward much like in 2012, Mario is that bad!
     
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  11. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    It's not so much Balotelli is the wrong signing - it's that the type of player he is is what is wrong. As I mentioned in another thread, apparently the committee target was Lacazette - a player very similar in the Suarez mould. Rodgers wanted Bony - someone completely different to what made us so dangerous last season.

    Rodgers seems to be insistent on the domestic transfer market - it's no surprise that we sacked the 3 domestic scouts we have.
     
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  12. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    We needed a big strong target man for Gerrard to hit with his 60 yarders <ok>
     
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    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree. How on earth did we end up with a choice between Ballo, Borini and Lambert given that every man and his dog knew that Sturridge would be injured?
     
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  14. I've always maintained i have nothing against Mario, its Brod for signing him because he simply doesn't fit. However, Mario does annoy me too. People often question why there are so many professional players that are completely one footed. I'm similar when it comes to effort. How does a player make it through the youth ranks in this day and age without putting effort in...?
     
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  15. Germlands Nozzer

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    They're that damn talented?
     
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  16. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Your definition of 'effort' is somewhat skewed IMO. I believe you think effort is running around, nonstop i.e. Borini and Lallana. Many players do not do this. Fact. As much as we love it, not everyone has the stamina to do this for 90 mins.

    You have previously drawn comparisons with Sturridge also - watch Sturridge closely and you will see that he works no harder than Balotelli when it comes to pressing and closing down.

    Not having a go mate, but I don't buy the lack of effort excuse for slating Mario. <ok>
     
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  17. johnsonsbaby

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    Balotelli's not a work horse, he's a target man. Somebody pointed out that Bony moves even less than Balotelli - yes really - but he gets better service and therefore more goals.
     
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  18. Explain Mario then <laugh>
     
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  19. I'm seriously not having this conversation with you again. Take a look at the last 452 times I've told you otherwise <laugh> ****all to do with playing like a bloody dog <doh>
     
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    Surely Liverpool's beloved history is enough to attract the big players? Right?
     
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