Liberty no they are not, I have seen an interview with Huw that said the upgrade of the stadium will be done by adding on and building new tiers around the stadium, there is no such opportunity to add seating to the dead space around the stadium.
guys we have just been promoted for god sake, we will need to cement our place in the premiership for three or four seasons yet before talking about extensions, jeez talk about running before you can walk. the stadium is a shared venture anyway and nothing can be done unless all parties agree to it. there is no need to even contemplate about this yet, the stadium is fine as it is and we should be concentrating on a new training pitch and the academy before any talk of expanding...
Did you read the article? It said "Chairman Huw Jenkins has confirmed increasing the capacity of the Liberty by around 10,000 seats would set the club back in the region of £15m". Huw has confirmed that the cost is around £15m. I don't see how they could make it any clearer.
Dai , your friend Jenkins has already indicated than expansion would be here sooner than later, when asked it was next May at the earliest , waiting 3 or 4 years would mean we would have lost that in potential gate receipts , come January will give us a clearer idea where we stand.
we stay up this season and jenkins wastes £15 million and in the 2nd season syndrome we come back down, the fans fall away and we are back to 14k-15k, what then a half empty stadium where the atmosphere would be terrible and it would be the biggest white elephant of all time. we have to prove ourselves over 3 or 4 years before even thinking about expanding or we could end up wasting a hell of a lot of money for nothing..
Dai, We won't be wasting money on the stadium unless there is a more than fair chance of staying up, we as a club should not be in a position of turning punters away ever, and Jenkins has said it would be looked at if we sell out every game for a season, and as the work only be done if we stay up, the £50m we will get for doing that will help greatly, we got to maximise our income in the good times mate, if we don't we will be years down the line saying why the hell didn't we do that then!
sorry disagree, if we were to go down this season next season or the season after it will be a huge white elephant that will always cost us thousands to maintain and nobody will be using it, a total waste of money at this time and something that should never be considered until we are sure we will have cemented our place as a viable premiership side, to make a fast buck now would cost us far more if we go belly up in the next few years. it just dont add up for a small side like us to think we are bigger than we actually are as a newly promoted club,
Come on dai you are the one telling us to spend that amount on player wages, that definitely don't add up, and you can't wait until you have been in the premier league to think about expansion, so if we wait 4 years for example we would have earned £200m at least, turned away tens of thousands of fans who would have paid for the expansion and would then go for it, and let's face it we could still come down in year 5 and be in the same position. I would hope that after playing premier league football our fan base will increase further, and before you say about the last time we were in the top flight, and what we had then, today is a completely different situation as it's more family oriented now, and we are a club on the up not down.
Immediate focus is obviously squad strengthening. Then we need to the whole marketing/commercial operation. I think the 'special' support that backed us at Wembley on May 30th has opened a new chapter in terms of support. The directors are fans who knew we had 27-30000 watching Leeds,Spurs, Arsenal ,man Utd,Liverpool in 1981 div One yet we'd only pull in 14000 for Notts County back in Div one then. So there are fickle fans BUT there's a bigger,better,more professional Swansea City now. We have a first class arena and this manager has created something special here now and it will hopefully herald many special years to come. This expansion debate will be on Martin Morgans agenda. After putting an academy and new training facility in place I hope we can get the correct partners on board to expand the Liberty. We have reached the promised land. We are in a soccer/sporting hotbed. We have a great catchment area (circa 800,000) . We have a pro-active,ambitious,young board and the support for Swansea City is out there. To get to that level of being regulars in the Premier league we have to look at increasing capacity. Lets hope the directors can keep the momentum on this
Actually at the time it all didn't seem that bad, but looking back, seeing video on the BBC site of games from that time and the Vetch was a mess and by the Liberty's standards the field was a mud flat. We've come along way since then.
Well Dai that extra 10,000 seats if they were all sold as season tickets, that would net the club an extra £4.5 Million in revenue each year, so you can't ignore that lost revenue, yes maybe for one season, but if the Swans stay up and are looking reasonably good, then we need to get the extra seating sorted, you can't ignore an extra £4.5 Million income annually, and on top of that we would be stifling progress in our fan base, which is not something we can contemplate if we are too progress, the real litmus test in all this will be how well we do this season on the 'Field of Dreams', I agree with Jager here............. please log in to view this image
Sure, there would be a potential lost revenue from not building but there is also a guaranteed lost revenue from the loss of revenue whilst it's being built. how many of us complain about the lack of seating now, but we also have to consider a 15000 capacity stadium for 1 to 2 seasons whilst it is being built Dai has a point (ouch - that hurt)
there won't be any or very little loss, as the extension is built behind the existing stadium structure, as indicated by jenkins http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13814668.stm
oops - just played the video having listened to that - the quote that stands it out is 'when the time is right', hardly the impression of him being in a rush!
yes when the time is right, if we stay up in the premier league after next season it will be time imo, and in that article posted up, but it takes time to do anything so as I said if we get thirty points by january I would would put money on the liberty being extended probably in phases like the north and south stand first, then the east stand the following May
Jager is correct I spotted that, seems most of the existing seating will remain in place as the extension is built at the back, and finally above!............. please log in to view this image
if it's that easy then sure. as i said earlier get 40 points in the first 14 games .... and we will see his plans. On another tangent, an extra 10k. I am usually a glass half full type of guy but I think a 26k stadium would suit us fine. Thats almost 1 out of every 10 people in the city of Swansea at the game (although in reality the catchment area is slightly greater). I just fear overstretching ourselves. It's still build on the team, training facilities and academy for this year before we even consider anything else in the future. £40 million doesn't go that far in football nowadays.
