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Allam: Hull City Council's 'loss of control' over running of KC Stadium

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  1. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    I have respect for Adam Pearson too and met him on the day/night he took over the club. His promises that day were all kept.
    If we had AP's media skills and the Allam's backing we would be a force to be reckoned with.
    Why do you think he really bought Hull FC ?
    I ask because I had the opinion that he had no interest at all in the sport.
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

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    I assume he just saw an opportunity to improve their fortunes, just as he did with City.
     
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  3. Happy Tiger

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    Just saw an opportunity to improve their fortunes? Not his own? Doesn't sound overly successful so far does it?
     
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  4. Croz

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    If they are only paying the SMC if the crowd is over 7500 what would be the need to inflate attendances?
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    I assume he saw the potential to do both, most of us try to better ourselves as we trundle through life, you should try it.
     
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  6. Chilton's Hundreds

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    Just to see the look on Allam's face when he found out.

    I wasn't impressed with AP when, shortly after buying the rugby club, he emailed all the Premier Club Hull City members trying to get them sponsor/subscribe to Hull FC.
     
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  7. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Is Adam Pearson the actual owner or just a front man?
     
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  8. Happy Tiger

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    Are you on the blob at the minute? If you want a row just start a CTWD thread and I'll meet you there.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    I don't want a row, I'm perfectly happy, thanks.
     
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  10. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    What? You are Happy???!!!! <yikes>
     
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  11. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    Bloody hell he has been arguing with himself all this time.<laugh>
     
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  12. wotnoash

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    Thats bipolar for you.
     
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  13. Chazz Rheinhold

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    No its not.
     
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  14. Erik

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    Loss of revenue through poor management by the Allams - £1.4m per annum

    Supposed potential increase in revenue through a name-change - £1m per annum

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  15. steverico

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    The real losers in this mess are Hull FC, Allam has put many restrictions on the club including moving their club seats into the North stand corner, forcing them to buy dozens of season tickets for Hull City which they struggle to shift, and a threat to close North and South stand for FC games for 2016.

    Allam is hated by the FC staff, he is bullying them and there is nothing they can do apart from leave the KC, from what I've heard City are in for some more explosive news in the near future.

    And we thought Lloyd was bad
     
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  16. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Brilliant well done Assem.
     
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  17. Happy Tiger

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    See? Every cloud.
     
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  18. ellewoods

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    The movie, Star Wars Episode VII : The Force Awakens, will star a resurrected Jar Jar Binks?
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    A Hull city councillor says there needs be a "full and frank review" of the KC Stadium lease.

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    Conservative group leader Councillor John Fareham spoke out after criticism of the council over its role in a mortgage deal arranged on the lease by former Hull City owner Russell Bartlett.

    The latest annual accounts published by the Stadium Management Company (SMC) have detailed how Mr Bartlett set up a holding company to own the SMC, which then provided guarantees on the stadium lease to secure two loans from the Royal Bank of Scotland used to help fund his takeover of the Tigers in 2007.

    Current City owner Assem Allam and his son Ehab, who are also the only directors of the SMC, claim the mortgage deal should not have been sanctioned by the city council, which owns the KC Stadium.

    They face having to spend £4.5m to clear outstanding loan repayments from the deal inherited after taking over Hull City and the SMC in late 2010.

    In the accounts, the Allams also claim that by failing to intervene, the council "lost control" over any future transfer of the SMC's ownership as any buyer could purchase the holding company.

    Now Cllr Fareham has called for a review into the issue.

    He said: "I have been advised by our officers there was no obligation within the lease for us to sign off anything because the loans were being secured through a responsible financial institution, namely RBS.

    "While some might argue that subsequent events elsewhere showed RBS were anything but responsible, at the time it was seen to be a responsible institution as defined in the lease.

    "However, I do think it is time we had a full and frank review into the SMC and the terms of the deal when it was originally set up to operate the stadium lease.

    "In the past, this has been pushed into the long grass but with national newspapers now taking an interest it can no longer be viewed as a little local difficulty."

    He said he would be urging a panel of councillors currently examining the council's relationship with the private sector to pay special attention to the SMC deal. The 50-year lease agreement with the SMC was struck shortly before the council-funded stadium opened in 2002.

    It handed day-to-day responsibility for the development, including all operating and maintenance costs, to the SMC.

    In exchange, the council was meant to receive a share of any profits if they exceeded agreed targets.

    However, no profit share income has ever been paid to the council and the latest SMC figures show the company recorded a £5m loss in the financial year ending in June.

    Cllr Fareham said: "I am getting a little bit sick of hearing certain Labour councillors blaming the Liberal Democrats for signing off the lease deal.

    "It's true the Lib Dems were in charge in 2002, but everyone knows they simply used the same agreed terms endorsed by the previous Labour administration."

    While the SMC accounts claimed an unnamed "senior executive" at the Guildhall sanctioned the mortgage, the council has denied any involvement.

    Cllr Fareham said: "My understanding is that the individual referred to by the Allams has left the council but that isn't a reason why we shouldn't have a review.

    "There are other questions that need answering, not least concerning one particular senior officer who worked closely on the stadium project and then was allowed to walk straight into a job with the SMC.

    "If I lost my seat I would have to wait a year before I could even apply for a job as a cleaner at the Guildhall.

    "There does seem to be one rule for officers and another for councillors in this context."

    SMC's 50-year KC deal

    OWNED initially by Adam Pearson, the SMC was given the job of operating the KC Stadium under a 50-year lease agreement with the city council.

    The deal included a profit-sharing element aimed at providing financial returns for the council to improve public services elsewhere.

    Before the stadium opened it was estimated the stadium complex, including the adjacent indoor arena, would cost up to £2m a year to run and that it would break even within three years.

    However the trigger point for any profits to be shared with the council has never been reached during the 12 years of the stadium.

    http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull...tory-24364212-detail/story.html#ixzz3INXaP3wi
     
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  20. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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