Liverpool surprised every one last season: we all believed that we're going to carry on this season. Totally disappointed. Please vote. Was it a fluke? Suarez was the key to our success?. Our summer signing are rubbish? Our new players are yet to gel?. Don't know?
look it is this simple. there was a confluence of factors that lead us to second. 1. pre Christmas we were only on for 4th. my season progress tracker shows this with 7/8 points out of 12 max taken bar the first games. this was good but we had a unique opportunity to get 4th and a confidence in it as utd imploded spectaculalry as did spurs. 2. we went out of league cup early (like utd this year) 3. we had no europe... (like utd this year) 4. Suarez was scoring a lot of goals right through the season 5. we found a way of playing which some attribute to joe allen coming in... but whatever... 4-4-2 diamond when sturrdige return to fitness and sterling played at the tip and gerrard sat back in and stayed there. we won 11 in a row. so................. this year no suarez. he was a live wire, a closer down, a hassler and worker. he stretched sides by going in behind, here there and everywhere. He was inspirational. A "we have suarez, he'll get a goal" mentality. this has completely gone and the movement up top and work is completely gone with him. thus we are at best playing in fornt of sides and at worst (which will be tonight) we are unable to get into opponents halves. gerrard hadn't lost his bottle. sorry but this year he's playing further up, not getting in between the two cbs... he did it for about 20/30mins v real and we were better for it. in short he is rejecting the role out of fear in my view that he'll get caught out. We are chopping and changing to try and find a way. its unsettling a very young squad. (as in our best players are young, the rest have no excuse) We've more games and rodgrs can't find a way to prepape for a game in 2 days not 4/5 days. finally utd are much stronger now, southampton have done well so far, even westham with two new players have done much better... spurs and everton have weakened so far. the same conditions do not exist and lfc have worsened as many have said to us.
No fluke, we had the 2 best strikers in the league last year and played to their strengths. Playing with them brought the best out the likes of Sterling, Coutinho and Henderson. At the moment based on performances of the strikers we don't have one half decent 1. Not one premier league goal from our 3 fit strikers is ridiculous. And not only do they not score, they don't often look like scoring because their movement is so poor chances are few and far between
Not a fluke but we overachieved given our squad was not the 2nd best in the league. We had 2 standout performers and if either of them had had a standard year and not exceptional then we'd have been fighting for 4th not the title.
Yep - it was a fluke scouting and signing two strikers (Suarez and Sturridge) and building a team around their strengths. No skill, management, expertise was required - just pure luck.
Fluke? 38 games, that's a whole lot of fluking. We were better than Chelsea last season and much better than Arsenal. We had the final pieces, Studge and Suarez, to make the system work, we lost them and have no one of that ilk to fill in plus new players and a lot of uncertainty in our playing. Tactically Rodgers has not made up for this shortfall, that I think is his weakness, he has his systema nd style but if he ain't got the right staff to employ it then I think he comes up a little short, which is why I will say yet again, the transfers were and are the problem, mainly not having the right forwards to replace those missing. So we have to wait to see if Bad and Co can be moulded into what we need, this meant we were never going to push on. This is a much bigger problem than our defensive woes which is clearly shown by us losing by a goal often and failing to score at all like against Hull where 1 goal would have done it We did some good work v City earlier in the season but were toothless up front and eventually as usual, went down to goals in our hunt to score our own 99% of our problem is our flaccid attack
It was clearly a fluke. Another to add to the list. Once again you have been unable to build on a good season and have tumbled backwards. Nothing wrong with a fluke though. Many a title in many sports have been fluked completely.
Garbage. This season we are not scoring for obvious reasons, we've only conceded 3 more goals that the league leaders this season so far. We lost our strike force through sale and injury. You are hilarious and clueless, but we knew that already united have conceded more goals than us, for all our defensive wobbles, but you've scored 3 more
So when we win cups it's a fluke because it's a 1 off game and a cup competition and when we come close to winning the league it's a fluke despite it being 39 games and apparently everyone finishes where they deserve over the course of 38 games. Apparently when United were winning titles it proved who the best teams were abs they were there on merit....
Your problem last season was midfield and defence and it remains your problem now. Your gove backwards as bad as we did under moyes but your done so much quicker. Last season was like scoring a goal against the run of play. Complete fluke that wont be repeated anytime soon.
Was it a fluke? In as much as the circumstances like MITO said came together to favour us. United were collapsing (in normal times would have been fighting for first or second) Chelsea had Mourhino finding his feet and unexpectedly losing to minnows although by far the strongest team in the league. Arsenal collapsing at the end of the season. So in a less unusual season we would have been 4th at best. Suarez was the key to our success? Undeniable. He was the driving force and the inspiration. The best player we have had for a generation. Just a shame he is such a scumbag and not a role model we would have been happy to idolise. Together with Sterling and Sturridge he formed the best attack last season and IMO one of the the best in premiership history. So good in fact that it masked ALL the weaknesses we had as a team. the SSS made everybody look good not least Rodgers and Gerrard. Our summer signing are rubbish? Our new players are yet to gel?. Rubbish is a strong word. Rodgers should have bought 2 or 3 very strong/high profile players with the Suarez money rather than 8 players. It is probably early to judge the new ones but the signs are not good. Yes they would time to gel but the whole thing was so unnecessary. In the past we bought players to just fit in rather than to create a whole new team. Rodgers is on trial on the moment whether he likes or not. He cannot bask in the glow of last season's success as many people now put it down to Suarez. He will need to show us that he CAN build a winning team and that he didn't just rely on an exceptional individual.
Many sides have fluked cup wins. Liverpools fluke last season rivalled 2009 and houliers second place finish. No foundations to keep it going and turn a huge chunk of good fortune into a prolongued period of success. Last season stands out like a sore thumb compared with many years prior. Its a one off for thia current crop.
Many sides have fluked cup wins. Liverpools fluke last season rivalled 2009 and houliers second place finish. No foundations to keep it going and turn a huge chunk of good fortune into a prolongued period of success. Last season stands out like a sore thumb compared with many years prior. Its a one off for thia current crop.
Hold on I thought it was because we were not in Europe, now it is because it was a fluke, the brilliant play and great performances were all flukes. baaahahahaha, you are tragically stupid
I think our problem is that other teams have learnt to counter our system by getting super tight on Gerrard and Coutinho, stopping them from delivering to the strikers. Last season teams could not afford to mark midfielders so tight because they had both Sturridge and Suarez to deal with up front. When Suarez left they were able to add an extra marker on Coutinho. When Sturridge got injured they were able to do the same to Gerrard. Suarez and Sturidge were also a very unpredictable pairing, in a good. Defenders never knew what they would do next. Balotelli on the other hand is as predictable as the annual Halloween horror movie release. To improve things we need Sturridge fit and another creative flair player in attack. Thats just to match last season, our defense will still be crap. To improve the defense we need a world class DM, a top keeper and some consistency in the back 4. I think Lovren and Sakho should play as they are both more modern and in the same mind frame as each other. Skrtel is old school.
Repeat it then. Simple as that. If you equal or better last season then it clearly wasnt a fluke. Hows it going so far? Proving it was no fluke i guess. But wait, you lost one player.... Oh no, no way. How unfortunate that liverpool would be tye first club in history to lose a good player. I feel for you now. Last season clearly wasnt a fluke as it was completeky normal and is of course a regular occurance. All those title challenges year after year... Or not. A one off season amongst a sea of mediocre ****e. Fluke is tye very definition. Even your own lot acceot rodgers had little to do with it as hes proving this season.
Not a fluke. Having the worlds most productive strike force will enable any side to push on, losing both components of that partnership is going to have a massive effect on any side too. Man City don't look the same when Aguero is missing, Chelsea with Costa. We lost two!!!
Rodgers stumbled across a way of playing when he shoehorned both Suarez and Sturridge into the same side. Before that you were going down the tiki taka route, but he played with the 2 of them in tandem and it just clicked. Gerard's Hollywood balls had 3 willing runners chasing them down plus you had bags of pace and in Suarez guile to go with it. So you could say the inception was a fluke, but once it clicked you continued to play in the same manner and consistently destroyed teams for a long spell, that's just great play. Now the driving force behind the success has gone, Rodgers has been left rustling through his dossier in search of inspiration, but imo it's highly unlikely that the planets will ever align in The same way they did last season under his tenure, as I just don't think he's that good.
