ghosttown.... The laugh at the gobshite uir thread

Oh ha ha what a wheez.... Wekbeck very good but cleverley and Nani? Oh that is funny everyone that's left on your list automatically improves your side they were that bad... And ferguson called that his legacy

Well done.... Very funny

 

No no it's Surrey where they were burning red shirts before going to buy Chelsea ones

 

We'll send their board into a meltdown next week too

 

What are you on about? they all played often in a title winning side, when you add them to Rio, Evra, Vidic and Giggs it means the team are in quite a transition. It is a lot bigger change to the team than losing one man

 

When did he say this?

 

Is that possible? I thought they were like your board; constant meltdown

 

I love their board (Arse), so much negativity even when they win

 

Considered that when i replied but thought **** it, in for a penny in for a pound

 

Not really losing one man though is it. We've lost over 50% of our goals from last season for most of this one.

Other factors too like Lambert & Balotelli not contributing goals but I think Man Utd would suffer just as much in attack if they sold Van Persie and Rooney only played 3 games...

 

It is one man from the team, that does not excuse the rest of the players for performing ****!

 

Sturridge & Suarez.

The main part of our success last season. One left and the other has hardly played.

You could say its Rodgers fault for signing attacking players who haven't performed so far to replace them but you could easily say the same about Van Gaal who has spent over £150m and still has a poor defence. But its only been 10 games so that would be extremely knee jerk.

And its ignoring the fact that we were in transition last season, despite our brilliant attacking play, we still had a lot of issues and the team was far from the finished article. And its ignoring all the new players that have been brought into the starting XI like Moreno, Lovren & Balotelli.

 

I love this term "transition", it describes a team like Southampton who lost 4/5 first team players, not one. Why did you have to integrate so many new players into a team that finished a comfortable second when you only lost one player?

 

Fair points.

However, even if we accept that the team last season was in transition and the performances and results were above expectation, we should be seeing some progress from the first season (if from the last may be unrealistic). The back to square one strategy from Rodgers is just baffling. There seems to be no building on last seasons good points. Most of the weaknesses identified last season have not been sorted. The defence line (with mignolet and CBs) is as wobbly as if not more than last year's. Sterling in the attack is hardly in any game these days and he must be confused about his role. His effectiveness has suffered and bringing balotelli to the club seems more and more like a damaging error rather than a bargain.

Do we cut our losses and make the inevitable decision about Rodgers or do we persist with him knowing that the best he could take the team throughout his contract is a CL place? That is the tough question.

 

Rubbish... If you left it with the top players fine but you drew in what everyone bar utd fans call the muck. Frankly what you are saying played in a title winning side are actually the distinctly average players who were covered by far far better players elsewhere

In fact cleverly is your equivilant of joe Allen and Nani? My god he is so average he is a joke. The fact is ferguson left all those average players there and that's why when moyes turned in he'd no chance in hell of even 4th which you should have expected no matter how bad he was... Too many average players

You'll not van gaal didn't take long is sorting some chaff from the wheat as it were and still it's not enough

Yes utd lost 3 of their very best defenders to age and lack of belief in vidics case also.... But.... Again smalling and jones and Evans was your answer and sorry but they are average

Yesterday utd had de gea to thank, Felliani got away with 2/3 challenge on another day he'd be gone but outside the box he was decent, blind is average enough but a good option, shaw match na as perfectly.... But where was di Maria? Unsupported that's where you've still an awful lot to do to get back not only to Chelsea's level but in reality man utd should be aiming for European elite and while lfc can expect a right spanking this week by being unable to even organise utd could only hope to sit tight and defend too... Just like you did v Chelsea and city who were both in no bother and self inflicted the end if both games on themselves

In summation don't even bother to defend ferguson or those players, history will show the state of things and if van gaal succeeds it'll make him all the bigger a hero. Those players are distinctly average and I think you know it when you see real stars like di Maria and de gea.

 

I do agree the constant chopping and changing of roles has served to turn a reasonably bright start for sterling this year, again when sturridge played, into a player looking like a lost boy

I feel that my thinking is Gerrard has bottled his role totally. He's not willing to sit between the two cbs any more. I really think it's a case of no balls. He's coming from midfield with his back to goal and easily marked rather than being the defecto 3rd cb when we are attacking. If he'd kept his bottle and did this the other two cbs could even stride icon when Gerrard is pressed and the other two cms could be finding space for short straight passes. We are missing this in open play. I feel it is this that is allowing no platform as well as balotelli being a useless out ball who never stretches a defence

And yet 2/3s of our goals are from set piece and failure to clear set piece....

 

We lost our captain, vice captain and other captain last summer. 3 massive players on and off the pitch.

You lost a major disruption in suarez.

 

Because second wasn't good enough

 

Liverpool fans use transition as an excuse for going backwards.

 

So you think last season (Brod's second) was the finished product then...? Yes, we've gone backwards after last year but that doesn't mean it not a transition still.

 

You cant always be in transition. Last season was probably the transition as it stands out like a sore thumb compared to seasons around it.