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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spudulike, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    I think Pochettino's basic approach is wrong. But I also think he's willing to keep trying new things until he comes up with something that works. I'm not so sure that even AVB, who was he most frustrating coach we've had recently, wouldn't have turned it around given time. So give Pochettino time, a minimum of 1 1/2 years, I think, if for no other reason than that we'll be able to attract better managers if we don't keep sacking them left and right. It's not like we're in danger of winning anything other than (if we're very lucky) a league or FA Cup in that period.
     
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  2. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    There's a lot to be said for this. One way to increase our chances against teams with more resources is to build a team of players in the 20-22 year old range. Assuming reasonable progression, they should be much better in three years.


    Interesting post. Is there something in Spurs' culture that makes the team sloppier, more liable to get caught on kickoffs, etc.? Possibly. But I watch us pressing all out all the time and think that any team that does this will get hit on the break, regardless of the content of their hearts.

    Also, as I've said elsewhere, 4-4-2 only at home/against teams that sit back. A 4-2-3-1 against better teams/away. Have it sit back against the top teams, as against Arsenal.
     
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  3. BajanSpur

    BajanSpur Well-Known Member

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    Nearly time to beg Harry to come back. <whistle>
     
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  4. I'd take either of those right now!
     
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  5. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    And the hand that held it out.

    What do you mean, back? He scored the winner yesterday!
     
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  6. paultheplug

    paultheplug Well-Known Member

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    Clone our away fans and fill WHL with them. They have got to be worth a goal or two.
     
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  7. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    For some reason that quote keeps coming up on our board. I'm not sure if it's you doing it everytime :D

    Anyway, the quote lacks any context. I'm not even sure he did say it but if he did I doubt it was in reference to situations where the variables are constantly changing. If you drop the same ball from the same height 100 times it's going to keep bouncing back up to the same height it did the previous time but if you change the conditions, eg the height the ball is dropped or switch from dropping a tennis ball to a bowling ball then you're going to get a different result. It doesn't even have to be a change that's as noticable as that, if you flip a coin, call "tails" and lose, you're not insane for calling "tails" again on the second flip. In football there are infinite variables some obvious and some hardly noticeable so it's wrong to base your opinion solely on such a specious quote.


    But yeah, lets not sack Pochettino.
     
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  8. totsfan

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    drop a bowling ball on your foot,and you'd probably get a good quote <laugh>
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    There's one simple quick fix that we seriously need to sort out ASAFP - work out which central midfield partnership is going to help us control games, rather than control the game for the first half followed by being completely anonymous for the second half as happened both against Newcastle and last night.

    To put it another way, for our better seasons here's the partnerships we had...
    2005-6: Carrick and Davids
    2009-10: Modric and Palacios
    2011-12: Modric and Parker
    2012-13: Sandro and Dembele (before the injuries started to mount up)

    If you dropped any of those four partnerships in for Capoue/Stambouli last night, or the Capoue/Mason pairing used against Newcastle and Villa, it's highly unlikely we would've been overrun for long periods in those games, just as it's likely we would've killed the games off.

    The question is what the partnership is - Capoue or Stambouli alongside one of Bentaleb, Mason or Dembele? Or are we going to have to wait until January and for an answer?
     
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  10. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    It's Mason with either Bentaleb or Stambouli, for me. I think Bentaleb protects the back four as well as anyone else on the team at this point, I think. He works hard and tackles exceptionally well. I like what I've seen of Stambouli so far, but I'd still take Bentaleb. Both of them are fairly good going forward as well.

    What about playing an all-effort team for a while, for the encouragement of the others? Let's see, Kane, Dier, Mason, Bentaleb, Townsend...more debatably Rose, Naughton, Lamela, Kaboul, Lennon. Come to think of it, Stoke would be a good team to try it on...4-4-1-1, Lennon on the right, Townsend on the left, Lamela behind Kane...you'd think they'd perform better than the teams we've been watching...
     
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  11. BajanSpur

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    Clone !., I say we clone Soldado and launch a 'buy one get one free' campaign. In the hope we get something for them.
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Point out that even AVB could instill a bloody minded will to win in our team. In his first season, anyway...
     
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  13. redwhiteandermblue

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    Never play the 4-2-3-1 inverted winger high press system again. We have the following history. Last year, AVB started with that system. It wasn't great in the beginning, though we did decently. Then we fell apart and AVB was fired. Sherwood installed a 4-4-2 which seemed to semi-intentionally sit back. He had the highest regular season win percentage of any coach in our history. We fired him and brought in Pochettino, who went back to the 4-2-3-1 inverted winger high press system. We promptly fell apart again. He varied it significantly twice, in games where we got our first result at Arsenal in years, and in another game we won. In the games in which we played with the system more or less intact, we've been worse than we have been in years. The seemingly straightforward solution is to never play that system again.

    What we should switch to is debatable, but a 4-4-2 looks like a good choice. Playing a 4-2-3-1 but sitting back, as we did against Arsenal, looks promising as well.
     
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