The supporters trust are allowed more shares, there is nothing written in UK and EU law prohibiting it. They could also demand and will get voting rights if they so chose, again backed the laws of this land. Having 21% won't protect their position if another entity purchases 75% as UK and EU law allows a hostile takeover whereby all others shares can be bought at face value even if they current owners of those remaining shares didn't want to sell. I will be happy to see the Trust acquire another 4%.
Staggered by these comments. You were the person who said sell all our best players and get relegated, but it doesnt matter as we will have money in the bank. We have a global brand now and to keep that we need to continue to perform as we have and to do that costs more and more each year. Gone are the days of staying in this league spending pennies. Whilst I am against total take over why don't we seek further investment in our club. For me this is the only way for a club oursize to continue doing what we are doing. i trust our board to get suitable investors without selling the club and the clubs ethos down the road and thats what they will do. I remember when I had 10p from my dad and could by chips, rissole and a drink. Why cant i do that now because times move on as do what we have to pay.
Sorry lefty , said no such thing.I said lets sell Bony at a profit while we can , same as Davies . Its what weve always done .I said then lets buy some gems and take our chances . I said IF we get relegated , were sitting pretty in the Championship and well have an easier time coming up.Ive never said ""lets get relegated"" , just to be prepated if we do, thats all ...cheers.
Well it was inevitable and I have said so many times in the past, but any so-called investor will have to be more of a benefactor given our board structure with the fans trust having over 20% 'controlling interest' so I'm not too worried about this, though what does concern me is that this seems to be driven from within the board and club rather than externally. Seems someone on the board wants out? unless there are financial issues with our expansion plans that require fund raising, but why not go to the fan base? Anyway interesting times, but if you talk to MANU fans or Liverpool fans regarding Yanks, you'll not get a favourable response!.........
I posted this on another thread about a week ago, didn't take long for the 'Billionaire' to appear!.........
A former manager said you have to improve each season in the Premier League just to stand still. Most feel that the stadium needs to be expanded. continued improvement in the academy and training facilities and on the commercial side. This is where outside investment is needed which will free up other revenue to improve the playing squad. Because of the increasing size of transfer fees this is needed not to compete with the really big clubs but just to compete with the middle of the table sides.
Trunds is spot on, you said we should sell the likes of Bony and 'when' we get relegated it won't matter because we will have money in the bank.
Lefty said ""sell our best players and get relegated"" you said ""Sell players and WHEN we get relegated"" your not even agreeing to same thing , nether of which I said. I wanted to sell players we could makw a huge profit and buy some gems , and IF we get relegated we have money
So thats 2 of us full of **** then. Maybe that should be just one is and thats the one who wants to just get rid of our best players. What i will give you is that i did word it wrong and that I should have added when or if we get relegated. Either way getting rid of our stars to just get money with the possibility of being relegated would have been professional suicide. I am just glad that you aren't at the helm in The Liberty.
No different than selling Allen at a profit , why is it differeent now lefty .Its how we 've always made money .
I can see selling one player when we have to or if we have no choice in that there are selling clauses in a players contract. You were looking to get rid of stars and just take the money. What good is money in the Championship. We are now an established PL side and as such should be keeping our best players and stregnthening from there and losing the deadwood not the other way round. It becomes more and more difficult for us to keep doing what we do every year as all other sides around us stregnthen their squads. We have to be one step in front of them to remain a Pl side and that means doing all we can to keep our best players.
If I said anything different than I say I said, i apolozise . We buy low and sell high , always have since I can remenbwr .The reason I wanted to sell Bony is we would have a huge profit and he wanted to go to a bigger team and we got Gomis sitting on the bench at huge wages .
Just wanted to sell Bony and Davies , for the profit lefty.we had Taylor and Gomis to fill in . Players like Vorm and the spanairds were going regardless .
Bony hasn't done to bad has he and he is the one who will give us the goals to keep us up. Gomis whilst a good player will never be as prolific as Bony, not a bad alternative though is it and a nice problem for GM. This is why we need further investment so we can keep the both of them. Mind you f a big big club does come in for Bony I can see him going.
Bony was talking to big clubs, part of the reason I wanted to sell Bony is he wanted to be sold to a bigger club,
I started taking an interest in the Swans just at the time when we were selling the Allchurch brothers, Cliff Jones etc., When I was old enough to watch the Swans live we were a selling club constantly on the merry go round of promotion and relegation. This eventually led to the Petty era and us nearly going out of existence. Since then we have gradually improved on and off the field and this needs to continue. We no longer need to or should sell our best players unless we have a ready made replacement as good or better or the player concerned becomes so disgruntled he is no longer an asset. It is important that we develop our own players through the academy and this is one of the reasons why we need some form of outside investment.
I have to say, Roof - thank god (even though I'm an atheist) you're not in charge here. Don't take this personally but you seem to think that the main aim, the sole purpose of running a football club is to make money, and you do that by buying low and selling high on a constant conveyor belt that has the cash rolling in. But whilst making money is crucial to remaining solvent, it's definitely not the be-all and end-all. I said recently here that football isn't just a money game it's also a glory game, and you really don't get any glory by being a wealthy club in a lower division. Because we've had a lot of success over the years finding rough diamonds on the cheap you seem to think this can be perpetuated ad infinitum - yes you can still find bargains but it isn't the norm. In fact I'd say the £12M we spent on Bony was a bargain and we're almost certainly going to sell high when he eventually goes. The problem with your approach is that if you keep selling your best players as soon as they have a good season you'll get a wealthy club that will quickly find itself wallowing in the lowers leagues again, and frankly I've had enough of wet windy nights watching my team play the likes of Luton and Shrewsbury.
Gets a bit tiring being told what ya meant sonetimes.I dont want to sell our best players, I want to sell players we can make a huge profit onand buy""potential"" type players .Up till last season , we didnt spend much and did just fine .Getting ""Investment"" so we can""keep up"" is what everyone else dies , not us . We got Michu , Chico, Vorm and Amat for half the price of Fernandez and some on here want to play A 250 thousand Amat , ahead of a 8 million pound Fernandez.At that rate , we'll need investment to 0ay bills nevwr mind trying to move any higher .
Source? Bony's agent was talking, not Bony. You also said that Jonjo would be leaving too. The Allen comparison is laughable because we still had Leon, who is a much better player. £15 million for Allen had to be done as he wasn't wirth anywhere near that some of money, not to mention we bought a replacement in Ki for £5 million.
