It would, but I'm hardly going to start re arranging where a few hundred people sit just so I can stand up. I appreciate you're not saying that's what I should have done by the way. It's up to the clubs selling the tickets to sort this out prior. Maybe one for this fans group to bring up?
This could easily be sorted by the ticket office. All they have to do is split the allocation between front half and back half. Those that are wanting to stand/sing can ask for seats in the back half. It doesn't need to be an official policy, they could just ask which section is required.
It's been brought up in the past. The problem is, the club are not allowed to call them standing tickets as ground regs don't permit standing, they can call them something else like 'active' supporter seats, but as soon as one clown tells the stewards that he's bought an active supporters ticket to allow them to stand, the club are in bother. It shouldn't be impossible for the club to get people to request tickets low down down if they definitely want to sit and to request tickets high up if they want to stand, but I think our ticket office have enough trouble issuing the tickets at is is and they'd rather avoid any potential issues(the same as every other club in the Premier League).
I always get my tickets through the website and, unless I'm mistaken, you can't do that. Also, because I'm not a season passholder, I have to wait, rightly in my opinion, until the pass holders time allocationn is up. That means, inevitably, that the lower seats are already taken.
There used to be an issue with away direct, where the tickets were dished out almost in number order, so members often ended up stuck in the back corners. It wasn't straight forward to correct this.
But that's the problem with away grounds. You can't choose where you want to sit. At the KC I would have no problem picking an area where most people sit rather than stand. For instance, I've never been inn the East Stand but I've been in all of the others. I prefer the West Stand. Perhaps that makes me a Granny (which I am) and a prawn sandwich (which I like) but I can't exercise that level of judgement at an away ground. When you use the website for tickets, as I do, you just get what you are allocated. For instance, I will be going to Burnley. Where will I be sitting? No idea. I know the ground well and I know which stand but where exactly I'll be, who knows. I might be sitting behind you, in which case it seems I'll be standing because I'll have no choice, or I might be in front of you in which case you won't need to stand but can if you want because I will have given you that choice. I'm not getting at you, I just think that if I want to sit AND see the game I should be able to. Perhaps I'm wrong and I'm a lone voice, or perhaps those who prefer to sit aren't likely to frequent this board.
I think most would agree. It's a case of trying to understand how the system works to see if there's a way that can accomodate both choices, and make it a better experience all round.
Some of those that did argue back were escorted out. Not sure why the stewards were so strict on Saturday though because as you say other teams are able to stand at Anfield.
I was in the Centenary Stand last year, under the scoreboard. From there it looked like most people were sitting. I don't think it was just this year that sitting was enforced.
I'll get shot down for this but we are seen as a soft touch and word gets around. Whereas other clubs fans stick together some of ours are quite happy to see fellow fans ejected. It was the same at Southampton and Spurs last season. Every week you see away fans all stood up there but ours were ordered about by the stewards and meekly complied.
You're clearly bothered about this. The question is what have done when you have seen this happening? Have you kicked off and made a stance or have you just waited until you can have a whinge on a football forum about it? If it's not the former you need to give it a rest.
I'll probably get shot down for this but ... why are you suggesting that we should not do as the stewards ask? Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't you knowingly bought a ticket for an all-seater stadium so you haven't really got much to complain about when the stewards try to enforce the rules. You make it sound as if we should all go to the match looking for confrontations. What happens with other teams is irrelevant. It's like saying that lots of people speed and then complaining when you get caught doing it.
Damn glory fans. I stood at Arsenal though. Some woman was moaning about how she wanted to sit and would complain to the stewards. In the end, everybody ignored her and stood the entire game (so she stood too). She wanted people to sit so she could see, yet she had a flag up blocking everybody behind hers view for parts of the game. Just deserts really.
If I'm not mistaken, you can just ignore the stewards (not reply at all, don't acknwoledge they're speaking, don't say no and refuse etc.) and there's very little the majority of them can do. A mate of mine used to work at the KC and Elland Road. He's ask fans to sit, if they ignored him/stood back up, all he could do was pass it on to his supervisor but it would rarely go any further. Of course the police are a different matter.
I have, yes. As I said I can't stand for whole game for health reasons, though I could with something to lean on like in those German safe standing areas. However when some dickhead steward was getting clever with some young lads stood up on the back row I stood up with my lad and asked him if he was going to talk to us like that (my lad is in his thirties). I pointed out over 2,000 away fans were stood up without stewards being bothered. Then you come to a grey area. There is no such offence as standing in a ground. The police only get involved if there is any violence. He tried to involve the police but they told him that seeing as the young lads were on the back row they weren't blocking anyone's view and as they were the only people behind me I wasn't bothering anybody it was hardly a big issue and seeing I had used no bad language or made threats it was hardly an issue. I did inform a steward once that if he tried to eject me I would make it worthwhile getting a ban and he buggered off. The point about this is the inconsistency of it. Away fans stand at the KC with no comeback from stewards, home fans get blood to sit down, although this has improved in some areas at least recently. Go away and some grounds insist on you sitting whilst they say nothing to home fans just an aisle way away. Some grounds have made an issue of sitting whilst on TV you can see away fans stood end masse for other games. We seem to have more fans who can't stand and who are quite happy to see their own fans ejected than anywhere else.
