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Oh No We Arn't Buying Like United...PANIC NOW

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Molby...The Pass Master, Jun 30, 2011.

  1. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    Except that (despite wishful thinking from many rival fans as they look for the tiniest sign of decline) he has shown no sign that he is past it. 3 European Cup Finals in 4 seasons and 4 league titles in 5 seasons despite losing his best player suggest the very opposite to him being past it. He's just won a league title and reached a European Cup final with a team that people have been slating as his worst for 20 years.
     
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  2. Foredeckdave

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    Why do you bother continuing to make the same statement when it is clear that nobody here is arguing about past records? If you asked the question Why did United win the Premiership last season? on any of the other Premiership boards I will hazzard a guess that the majority of responses would suggest that they did so by default rather than united's performances.

    As for ferguson then I believe that we have raised sufficiet indicators that he may be loseing his grip to support our opinions. If for no other reason then even you have to accept that one day we will be right. The signs to non-commited commentators are that that day is far closer than you would like to admit.
     
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  3. Ze

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    Did I ever say he was past it? No. I said there shouldn't be long before he quits, otherwise he may become past it.

    Think about the stress he's under all the time to achieve, and the expectations on his shoulders. As you get older, stress feels heavier and it could speed up diseases like Alzheimer's or even just loss of memory which is common is people getting older. When your job relies on you being sharp and staying focused, it could mean he couldn't do his job effectively.

    What you'd least want is for him to stay on when this happens, because it's not always visible and due to his caliber as manager, he could wreak havoc on the club before anyone even knows anything's wrong.
     
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  4. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    Been hearing about Sir Alex's (and Man Utd's) demise for years and years and to be honest it's boring. The more you write him (and Man Utd) off the more he (and they) prove people wrong. If these predictions had come true we'd have won nothing, and Sir Alex would have been fired, many years ago.
     
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    I really have no interest in getting involved in an argument here but surely it's only being realistic to say that he probably can't last much longer? In the same way that you look at players who are 33 or 34 and say they could pack it in at anytime soon.
    Where Utd go after he retires will be a testament to the club and to the legacy Fergie leaves behind.
     
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  6. Depay Sound

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    Well he's not exactly doing a bad job at the moment is he? The team are showing no signs of declining if you look at what they have achieved (despite what many rival fans try and claim).

    The stereotypical view is that when people reach a certain age they can't hack it anymore but there are plenty of people who prove that wrong and Sir Alex is showing no sign that he is beginning to struggle. You talk about the way he handled Rooney but it helped us win the title didn't it?
     
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  7. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    Well he's still winning titles despite people arguing that this is his weakest team for a long time. Obviously he can't carry on for ever but there are no signs that he is going to leave soon, and when he does eventually leave I suspect he will have a role in deciding who they apoint next and will ensure that he leaves behind a squad with foundations for a strong future.
     
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  8. BringBackfootie

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    Well custard is consistent I will give it that. Not once has this guy put forward decent debate and just spouts his usual bile driven rubbsih<ok>

    Sneijder turned down offers twice to join UNited to stay in the inferior italian league this time round?, who would blame him, he's playing for a club that can play Barca and win why would he go after seeing that final, he would reckon he's a tiara in a turd goin to United
     
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  9. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    They beat Barca 2 seasons ago under Mourinho, they won't do that again. Italian football is very weak at the moment.
     
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  10. Molby...The Pass Master

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    Fortune teller as well as a parrot...Got tonight's lottery numbers him hoe?
     
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  11. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    Not only are you the most stupid person on these boards but you are a total dick too.

    Spending your time trying to start childish arguements on a football forum. Get a life.
     
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  12. Molby...The Pass Master

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    Do one low life..unlike a total brain dead rival fan, who can't debate, is too up his own arse to understand intelligent debate and thinks he's the dog's (more like the brown star fish round the back) I stick to my own board in the main, like sensible discussion with my own club's fans..When i come across inbreed, brain dead rival fans i.e YOU..I'll treat you with the complete contempt you deserve.


    You can't debate, won't consider other idea's..In him hoe.. your a total wayne kerr.
     
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  13. BringBackfootie

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    You saying the above is exactly the type of thing that you accuse rival fans of saying about United.

    They beat Barca and won it season before last, sure we won it in 2005 went out early the folowing year and made the final the next year in 2007 and we were "inferior". A lot went on at Inter apart from a manager change, but they had a great side, lets not forget that, maureen was not on the pitch was he, they stuck it to Barca in italy, not just won they crushed them, even with chelsea Maureen never managed to do that and they were a lesser barca then too. SO I reckon your estimation of Inter is way off. They were poor last season but if they watched videso of ye away last season well, they'd think ye inferior

    united are buying players that are available, they could pick and choose in the past, I remember they wanted Shearer, back then they got almost anyone they wanted but Alan told em to fk off <ok> Ye have not had to spend because of the nevilles giggs scholes becks keane all staye so long, hardly transfer mastery because since they've all gone we'll now see the real transfer "masterclass" and it aint working out that way with what Fergie's brought in so far, they are decent but of no immediate help to the problems
     
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  14. Depay Sound

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    I was having a debate but as usual you come out with a pathetic childish comment to try and start an argument.

    You always try and start arguements and then slate others for ruining the article. You're pathetic.
     
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  15. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    Italian football has been poor for years now. In 2010 Mourinho did a great job with Inter, I don't think they were the best team in Europe at that time but he was tactically spot on, but every other season Italian teams have performed very poorly in Europe.

    Serie A has suffered a lot of damage from the bribing scandals and I can't see Inter repeating their performance on 2010 any time soon.
     
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  16. Ze

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    I haven't talked about the way he handled Rooney at all. Perhaps you should read the name of the poster before casting us all as the same person.

    The stereotypical view is there because the FACT is, it's more likely to happen. As you get older the risk of these things increases, which is what I'm talking about. Add the type of job he does into the mix and the risk increases further, being a manager is a stressful job and when you've been doing it as long as him it has an impact on your health. There's no doubt he's managed to stay in shape, but time will catch up on him and he will quit sooner or later so there's no point sticking your head in the sand and saying he won't. Don't forget he wanted to quit in 2005, but decided not to. The fact that he had even planned to retire back then, proves he feels like his time is coming towards it's end, because you don't retire in your peak.

    I'm not predicting when he will quit, but it will happen sooner rather than later and as a Man United fan you should probably want it to happen sooner rather than later, because the consequences of him carrying on with the job when HE knows he's not capable would be catastrophic for the club.
     
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  17. BringBackfootie

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    The aim is to win it who remembers runners up. Regardless of the performances, they have 3 wins since 1999 and guess what the English teams have ammassed in that time for all their superiority?. It is well, 3. and thats with all the scandal the punishment of teams and seriously bad fan trouble and politics interference in Italy


    Was looking at the teams from 10 years ago, ack then this was certainly a harder comp to even make it to hte semis never mind the final, that is clearly shown in the way United have not got more wins with arguably their best team.
     
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  18. Depay Sound

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    So long as he isn't showing signs that he's starting to lose it then I would have no reason for wanting him to go. Also I wouldn't start calling for his head after just one or two bad seasons (like some Man Utd "fans" have done in the past <doh>).

    He is still doing a fantastic job and as long as that continues and he is happy then he should remain as manager. We were in a far worse position between 2003 and 2005 with many writing him off and one journalist in particular talked of Sir Alex destroying is own "empire", but he proved the doubters wrong.
     
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  19. Depay Sound

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    You can't deny that Italian football is a lot weaker than it used to be though. Italian teams used to dominate Europe a long with the Spanish but that hasn't really happend since the 90's, bar the odd exception.
     
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  20. BringBackfootie

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    Cant argue with that assesment of the job he's done. A replacement should already be at the club for a handover.. unless its phelan?:)
     
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