What if the players we've got aren't capable of doing it and its not in their nature to do it. Very hard to get someone like Coutinho tracking back when he's never done it regularly, Mignolet to change his whole style and start coming out for the ball and commanding the box.
Just confirms the guy is a fool. One season where we over performed and he thinks he is a top coach. I can see him gone by summer.
Told Henderson, Downing, Enrique, Skrtel and Flanno they weren't good enough and they could leave before giving them a second chance after either seeing the light or the player dug in. Some may have left in the end but he still gave them another deserved chanced. He bought in Aspas, Assaidi, Sahin, Moses, Cissokho and Borini. They are his signing yet he's not been stubborn with any of them, he either sold, got rid of or tried to lose all of them. Joe Allen; aka the love child. He doesn't play every week so I wouldn't say there is any stubbornness there. Plus the stats back up Allen's involvement. The only two you can label him stubborn about is Steven Gerrard and Glen Johnson. As for the style and formation, he's changed both to suit the players including player no less than eight formations so far. Overall, I'd say he's been quit flexible. He's willing to admit when he is wrong and change things. Plus all managers have to have a stubborn side to them. Posters using the stubborn accusation card is bang out of order IMO.
Then either Rodgers is at fault for buying players that can't actually carry out what he had planned? I mean you named two of his players there. If you'd said Skrtel or Johnson then I'd have said get rid if they can't do it but if it's players hand picked by BR and THEY can't well ,....... Oh and Saint, I was taking the piss out of myself there regarding seeing the obvious problems as that's the difference between me the spectator and BR the coach he gets paid to see and fix. Two years on and We're still seeing the defensive problems and the only move towards fix I see is when both Moreno and Manquillo play and that's going from no blocking of crosses to some. Now I dont think Rodgers deserves the disrespect of being called a fool like Diver did. For all the talk of **** transfers and fraud talk, our squads better than it was when he came with the one obvious exception. I dont blame him for gambling on Suarez and building that direction only to be sat staring at a drawing board that looks an awful lot like a year ago only no Suarez....I'm back to my it'll take five years of slow progress I put forward before last year. I can sense a building of hysteria in some quarters that will in another couple of bad results form the words "Rodgers out" I disagree. I disagreed when KD didn't get the chance to see it through and I'll disagree if the same happens with BR because you can add up how much he has spent but the breakdown into individual buys smells just as much of FSG's model as anything else and if they keep sacking managers for now following that model then the best we can hope for is turning into Southampton.
All this. I'm honestly not sure he can figure out our ills at the back but I'll wait until he gets brave enough to make that final decision then he's got no excuses once he puts his own General in there. I'm not even talking about callously kicking out the local lad, that lads near retirement. When he goes then it truly becomes Rodgers team. Oh and in four years I'm really really hoping that local lad Rossiter can become if not THE guy, at least one of the main guys......
isnt rodgers responsible for most of our defence though? Migs,Lovren,Sakho,Moreno,Mankiller i think are all his buys. ballo hasnt worked yet, lambert how long does he need? Borini is pants,allen is ok for a squad player.Can and marcovic dury still out on. half the squad is his buys, i hope he gets it right again in jan like he seemed to with studge and coutinho, who are probably the only success stories he has had in the window in my opinion so far. i hate orange, but someone tell me the future is bright, as i am struggling, only saving grace is somehow we are in 5th and we have been an shambles,there is obviously a lot more to come from the players, but will they, that's it. we need top 4 as we struggled to attract players last season, but is it our penny pinching contracts or they just didnt want to come, i dont mean players holding you to ransom like falcao, but we could have got decent players i reckon if we gave them the going rate, being cheap only works on players who have points to prove, probably why we got ballo so cheap, and studge is injury prone sadly. i'm still mythed why we didnt go for eriksen, too late for that now though, he would have improved our midfield. like to see who the panel is for buying players, as they sound more like business men, more than people who know about the game.
I think its early days for Lambert,he's seen very little football thus far and yes he has looked off his game but lets be patient and allow him more game time. (League cup maybe) Borini imo is being harshly judged.Two nasty injuries in his first season didn't allow him to build any momentum/confidence.Last season I thought he did well on loan with a struggling Sunderland side. Not sure why BR has not given him more of an opportunity with Studge's lay off,I would tend to use Borini before Lambert as another alternative to the clearly mis-firing Balotelli.
Based on recent buys I think the panel are Stevie Wonder Helen Keller Lennie Peters Ray Charles Blind Willie Johnson and Blind Lemon Jefferson I might be wrong about the last two as they are more blues.
Why wouldn't rodgers believe he is a god? Hes been built up to be one despite doing basically nothing of note. Another example of liverpool getting carried away over nothing.
I don't think you guys have done too bad considering most of the team is their first year in the CL, you have had a tough start and sit 5th, win today you will be in the Top 4. Champions League you are not out of it and should finish 2nd then when it settles down after Xmas you have enough squad depth that other clubs don't have and should finish 3rd/4th. Its a long season and its only just started really see what it is like after Xmas then have a moan if its still the same. (Bit to early yet)
BR is a professional bullshitter. It's clear we need a defensive coach. These players (Lovren, Sakho etc) are still brilliant defenders for their national team, and they were at the teams they played for before Liverpool. You don't just forget. They're clearly being coached badly. I don't think he has that much time left to be honest.
****ing sick of all this now. We're eight games in and sit fifth on 13 points, three points off the CL spots, two of which are occupied by teams that have been playing excellently but who nobody would expect to be in those spots and who, realistically, won't be in them come next May as their levels will drop (maybe one of them will continue to surprise and be an unexpected to 4 challenger - that would be good for the league, as I type this the Hammers have just gone one up against City). Chelsea and City are going to run away with it (unless they play West Ham every week ), anyone who follows the game knew that was inevitable this season. We've been playing awful football in its own right but especially in comparison to last season's high standards. But we're still up there easily in contention for the CL and ahead of our own performance schedule as laid out by the owners, management and coaching staff. We're also ahead of the traditional top 4 or thereabouters, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton. Tempting fate by saying it maybe but we can't get much worse, so the football's going to improve at some point, and if our worst has us 3 points off top four in another unpredictable season, then we're really not doing so badly. It's just last season's mega results and the swiftness and attacking nature of our play have set a very high benchmark. hope that we can get back to that soon.
A very good point. What makes them decline when they oull on a red shirt? BR has no clue how to coach them.
Nobody knows what the other guys gaining to do But do you want A) rafa straight jacket B) woy patterns of play C) Rodgers style One can only suggest that it is possible to be defensively well set up and still play attractive football
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers had ruled out bringing in a specialist defensive coach, and insists he will continue to give 24-year-old striker Mario Balotelli opportunities in the first team.(Guardian) God help us....
