He says he had lawful sex with her because she consented. They didn't say they planted the bombs but it was ok because it wasn't against the law. They said they didn't have anything to do with the bombings.
Yes. I don't think I'm doing a very good job of explaining my point (we seem to be arguing different things), and so, in the words of Duncan Bannatyne, "I'm oot"
A court found evans guilty they heard evidence not available to anyone on here , he had his appeal rejected he is seeking leave to have a his case reviewed that as far as I am aware has not been granted and would require new and compelling evidence not available at the original trial to be produced. I have no problem with anyone protesting their innocence nor with the fact that miscarriages of justice occur and have a devastating impact on those who suffer them, such as the Birmingham 6 the guildford 4 etc. What I find difficult however is the crap an issue like this allows all kinds of mysoginistic half wits to come out with. 'She should be locked up' ' it's a dodgy conviction ' ' I think he's innocent' What makes it worse is 90% don't have a clue what the law on rape is ( Google Sexual offences act 2003) Evans family have waged a vile relentless well financed campaign at this woman who evans raped despite that they have not won one legal battle nor have they convinced tens of thousands of Sheff u fans who have petitioned to stop the club taking him back. Should he be able to work after his release...yes he's served his time can he do any job no would I want him at my club no.
All I'm saying is if you commit a crime whist drunk allowances are made in English law for the state you were in. The law on rape is simple you need two (or more) consenting adults for sexual intercourse to be lawful. The legal test then becomes whether consent was given. It is up to the jury to decide on the evidence provided whether consent was given. In this case the jury decided consent wasn't given to Ched Evans so he was convicted. A view upheld by the court of appeal. Since his mates filmed part of it you'd think he'd be relying on that film rather than cctv footage that may have been filmed more than an hour earlier.
I don't agree with the people saying she should be locked up, but I fail to see what's misogynistic about the two things I've highlighted. I don't know if he's guilty or not, and I don't recall saying anything with absolute certainty on the subject. All I have is a gut instinct, and it's telling me he might be innocent.
Being so far off your face that you are incapable of consenting to anything is not the same as saying that anyone who has sex with someone who's drunk is guilty of rape. And I say that as someone who has a cycling proficiency badge.
Didn't you say "I know next to nowt about this". You then say she should be put in prison for destroying his life. Rather than coming on here why not put into Google "Ched Evans trial transcript" read the facts presented to the jury and come back with something intelligent to say. The jury will have looked at all the evidence presented during the trial so would the Court of Appeal. I'll give you a few facts to start off with. The film of the pizza was about an hour before she got in the taxi, it showed her falling over and she left her bag in the kebab shop.
People passing their opinions of whether he was wrongly convicted really ought to shut the **** up and wait until we see what happens. Just makes you look ****s. The whole thing about whether or not he should play football again is odd, though; if he was an engineer, or a bricklayer, we wouldn't be having this conversation. What difference does it make?
Why would I be that bothered about a 2nd rate footballer banging some bird enough to go and research it? I've come here to find out basic facts of the arguments but all i've heard is that she was too pissed up to remember if she consented or not. For me, based on that alone, that's not a good enough argument to sentence him and destroy his life. To me it seems like she woke up and, rather than looking at her own pathetic mistakes, bawled to the fuzz. If any footage shows her falling over in the street then she's not responsible enough to go out drinking, unless you're going to tell me that he spiked her drinks or something too? Sounds to me like she's just a big old slutty coward.
Bricklayers or engineers don't perform in front of thousands a week, nor are they role models to hundreds of kids.
I think that's unnecessary. Like I said, I'm in no position to say whether he's guilty or innocent with absolute certainty. There are two stories in this case and Ched's is more believable in my opinion.
If it's unnecessary, then it's also unnecessary to call him a misogynistic pig. As I heard from some woman in the pub the other night. Point being that one of us is correct. The other is totally wrong.
