http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lord-freud-says-disabled-workers-4445349 Even Cameron said he did not agree with the comments. Mr Cameron said: “Of course disabled people should be paid the minimum wage and the minimum wage under this Government is going up and going up in real terms.” Why would he say that if the guy had said topping up with benefits would be the way to go? Probably because he didn't.....
I'm definitely getting old - it's Friday night and I'm mostly excited about the fact I have time finally to get stuck into the new David Nicholls book....oh dear.
possibly. but often it's because the angry people have spun it up so thoroughly that there's no way out except to apologise for things you haven't said. ddos politics. edit: i wish the bbc article didn't abruptly end with an unfinished quote... did he just stop that abruptly?
Either way he ****ed up and should go. Disabled people aren't worth full pay = sacked We will let employers pay less so they can get some one that may not be that disabled ( there are many dif types of disabled) for cheap. Then top up their pay with benefits. Which would also make out incapacity payments has gone down = sacked. Both things are disgusting.
If anything should see him go it's the ineptitude and rudimentary thinking behind solving an issue aloud in public. epic pandering failure. The headlines will go with man hates cripples though.
I must say, I feel rather uncomfortable with this default position of "person puts forward opinion for debate that I disagree with. They must be sacked". It reminds me of the recent story where two lesbians were ejected from a Sainsbury's in Brighton for sharing a quick kiss in the aisle. Everyone started screaming blue murder and said that the security guard should be sacked. In reality, the (female) security guard was having to act on a complaint from a customer - so they were doomed if they did, and doomed if they didn't. Had she not acted upon the complaint, it's fairly clear it was made by the type of arsehole that would then take the fact their complaint wasn't dealt with higher. The only person in that incidence that was being unhelpful wasn't Sainsbury's, or their training policy, or the security guard. It was the killjoy complaining. Just screaming "sack them" isn't always the answer.
It is this time, for the welfare minister to say what he did can not be excused, your scenario is totally different.
Can his proposal not be discussed until such point that all stakeholders in this decision feel a correct solution has been reached?
As I said either way he needs to be gone. If he said some disabled people shouldn't get minimum wage then how can you defend him? If he said firms can just pay £2 and benefits pay the rest then that isn't right either, because it is giving big businesses the right to pay low wage knowing the government will pay the rest. So basically cheap labour. How can the first even be a proposal?
it's not clear he said that though. given a specific context he could have meant people willing to work for someone who was only willing to pay £2. the patchy audio and poorly considered wording lends itself to the angry conclusion.
agreed. the conservative party is a bunch of gordon browns tbh. it's pathetic how inept they are at the game.
The bottom line is that he has caused offence to many thousands of people (not just the disabled) by his poorly judged comments....How would anybody feel if it was suggested that they were only worth £2 an hour?. My old dad always preached "a fair days work for a fair days pay" and employers should pay a fair wage if someone is going to give them 8 hours of their time a day. Chilco said it best when he said that we should have certain standards in 2014, it is not Victorian Britain and people should not feel that they are second class citizens because of their race, gender or disability.
Er, he already said that days ago. As for the Sainsbury's thing, meh. The overreaction seemed a bit stupid, there was no indication that was anything homophobic and that the same thing wouldn't have taken place if it was a hetrosexual couple. Frankly, when I'm in Sainsbury's (or more likely Aldi), I don't want to see people making out, regardless of gender. FFS get a damn room and stop attention seeking. Maybe I'm old-fashioned in that I believe love is between two people, not two people and everyone else who happens to be in a vicinity.
dress it up however you like, it's charity and the only argument is where the burden is placed and how to please the most voters with the way you present it.
At the airport yesterday, a few passengers were glancing awkwardly at two lesbians having a right good send off in a corridor. I just thought, "nice arse"
