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  1. tomw24

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    No idea but they had to get the Fire Service to cut her free. #redfaced.
     
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  2. Beef

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    Why hasn't this guy been sacked yet?

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29628557

    "Some disabled people shouldn't get the minimum wage" then asked how much they should get he said £2. This was said by the welfare minister as well.
     
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  3. tomw24

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    Prick.
     
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  4. Jose Fonte baby

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    I may be wrong, but I think the point he was trying to make was that employers may think a disabled person won't get as much work done as a non-disabled person on minimum wage and be looked over, and so disabled people, if they wanted to, could offer to work below the minimum wage (which is illegal) to become more employable. Still though, 2 pounds is too low, 5 or 6 pounds would have made a bit more sense.
     
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  5. Beef

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    No person should get less pay because they are disabled.
     
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  6. Jose Fonte baby

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    I agree, but some employers will look over some disabled people so I sort of see where he's coming from over working for less and being more employable, but that would be wrong.
     
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  7. Beef

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    He still needs sacking stating some disabled people should get £2 only. There is no justifying what he said in my eyes.
     
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    The idea, that a disabled person is worth less than someone else itself is abhorrent. the clue should have been in the use of the word "minimum", unless the conservatives are suggesting a lower minimum for disabled? By the same perverse thinking, perhaps women should be paid less, or immigrants? I've just checked the date on my phone to make sure it wasn't 1914, and not 2014. The man should resign in shame.
     
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  9. Jose Fonte baby

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    Summed up well. The minimum wage is low enough as it is.
     
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  10. Jose Fonte baby

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    Yeah, guess so. If he said 5 or 6 pounds, that wouldn't have been as bad, but 2 pounds is madness!
     
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    Fully agree. My best friend is disabled and he's in the process of suing a company for overlooking him (a Cambridge graduate) in favour of someone who got a 2.2 from Portsmouth. He's claiming discrimination and from what I've heard he's been very unfairly treated.
     
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    Don't disabled people have to buy the same products at the supermarket to live?, they are not cheaper for them than anybody else and they probably have a few extra medical bills as well.
    The Minister's comments can only be interpreted as an insulting, when he uses words such as "worth". I seem to remember a certain England Manager getting the sack for insulting the disabled.
     
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  15. Clem Fandango

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    If you actually read the article he says disabled people should get paid less just so that employers will take them on and they get to work, and that the government should top up their wages with benefits.

    As it's difficult for anyone to get a job these days, this doesn't seem like a totally outrageous suggestion.

    Of course the pc brigade and bullshit politicians couldn't wait to jump all over this.
     
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  16. Saints_Alive

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    So he is suggesting that unscupulous employers that do not practice equal opportunities should be rewarded for it and the rest of us pay for it.
    If a disabled person is qualified for the position they are seeking, then they are "worth" just as much as anybody.
     
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    Edit: A cynical part of me says that it is also an excellent way of reducing the unemployment figures.
     
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  19. Clem Fandango

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    The point is if there's nothing to chose between two candidates but one is disabled and the other able bodied, this would mean the employer would hire the disabled person. 99 times out of 100 it would go the other way.
     
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  20. It’s Only A Game

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    It's not cynical at all. Not only would it reduce unemployment figures but would also reduce the incapacity benefit the government would be paying.
     
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