1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

City Till We Die

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by HullCitySupportersTrust, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    So no response to my questions about who is actually the poster behind the name CTWD on here?

    I just want to know if we're all allowed multiple accounts so we can be someone else when we want to say offensive stuff, like OLM is allowed, if indeed he is one/the poster behind the CTWD name.

    Not a great start to opening lines of communication up is it?

    For the rest of you ladies bickering about his stance on fan ownership, I would rather he did go back on his word, I REALLY do not want CTWD or the ****s surrounding it anywhere near the boardroom of my club.
     
    #41
  2. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    39,179
    Likes Received:
    21,269
    It's not your club its Allams and he can do what he wants.
     
    #42
  3. Boothferry2Wembley

    Boothferry2Wembley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,725
    Likes Received:
    137
    I am against the Allam vision of fan ownership. I do not think it is right that the owner of a football club should be allowed to own fans. Either in this country or any other. I am also against the owning of politicians, whether they are fans or not. This would apply locally or globally.

    I may have misunderstood the concept of fan ownership and there should be no inference that Assam Allam has ever claimed to own people in this country or any other including the land of his birth.
     
    #43
  4. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,258
    Likes Received:
    2,692
    Does that apply to us all, Happy Tiger? It would be nice to know who you are, but that's against the rules.

    You don't listen to what CTWD say anyway so what difference does it make who puts the posts up?

    Just so you know, I've had nothing to do with the CTWD committee since the AGM, so its not me using the account.

    You demanded an answer to your question, lets see if I get an answer to my questions.
     
    #44
  5. Boothferry2Wembley

    Boothferry2Wembley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,725
    Likes Received:
    137
    Oh look the return of the little boy who cried wolf, our inter forum poodle. Any chance you could explain to us one more time how the club is on the verge of financial meltdown?

    In your own time sweetie.
     
    #45
  6. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    112,226
    Likes Received:
    77,833
    Just because I live on here, there's no reason to expect City Till We Die to do the same, we're not childline, don't expect every question to be answered within minutes.

    I set up the account on here, at the request of my fellow committe members, with the aim of making a clear distinction between the CTWD organisation and individuals within that organisation, just to avoid any confusion. I've posted the only post so far, but other members will have access to this account and will respond to certain issues if they are better placed to do so(it's likely that it will be me that requests them to do so, if they are better placed to answer than me).

    It's not a multiple account, it's a single account for the Hull City's Supporters Trust to speak to Hull City fans.

    The situation with the dedicated website is unfortunate, we have a full new website built, but unfortunately the person who built it is no longer involved and we've been unable to turn it from a template to a working site and we're having to start all over again. We're trying to sort this as a matter of urgency, so this is only a temporary measure, but we think that some lines of communication are better than none, we're really just making the best of a bad job.
     
    #46
  7. Carmine Galante.

    Carmine Galante. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    12,785
    Likes Received:
    6,270
    This could get a bit messy/ confusing.

    If a question is asked on this thread for CTWD to answer will the person penning the reply have consulted CTWD or not?

    If not then surely personal opinions are likely to come into play?


    If some sort of consultation is to take place then it will be a very slow paced thread.

    Unless I'm missing something?

    It wouldn't be the first time.
     
    #47
  8. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    112,226
    Likes Received:
    77,833
    Thanks for your kind offer, if you can PM me the link to the temporary hosting address at 10.30pm, I'll let you know what I think. I'm sure it will be great, the one my daughter did for me is fantastic, though she took several days, but then she's probably an idiot like me.
     
    #48
  9. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    Lighten the **** up. It's perfectly acceptable to call people ****s if you're doing it with a wry grin on your face. I've permanently got a wry grin, so you can safely assume I'm doing it as a joke. If its good enough for the CTWD chairman etc.

    It makes a huge difference as I want to know who is speaking on behalf of CTWD, and you're wrong, I do listen to them, I just do not trust or believe them.

    So its important to know if its OLM or someone else, or if an account on here is being shared, and its also important to know if multiple accounts are now permitted on here, or if that just applies to CTWD now.

    I'm well aware you're not on the committee, you're too busy being the resident barrack room lawyer and financial expert on running a football club. When IS the club going to go into financial meltdown again btw?
     
    #49
  10. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,258
    Likes Received:
    2,692
    #50

  11. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    I see. You didn't think for one minute it would have been polite to ask us all first? Newsflash: This is not your personal forum, nor is it the CTWD forum.

    We have a clear rule about multiple accounts, and you in fact go to great trouble to spot and delete them. Yet here we are, with what is in effect various forum members able to post under the anonymity of CTWD or under their own names. One set of rules for you ****ers and one for the rest is it now?

    Just a final point of order, CTWD is not a Supporters Trust. Unless you're keeping something from us all again?

    You probably still wonder why a good percentage of people do not trust CTWD.
     
    #51
  12. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    112,226
    Likes Received:
    77,833
    In case you didn't notice, Dutch has asking us to do this for a while.

    Hang on, didn't you support him in doing so?

    Our issue with multiple accounts, is that it's generally used by a banned poster to return, or it's used by an idiot to back up his own ridiculous arguments. This is simply a way for a Hull City fan organisation to speak to Hull City fans, I'm not sure why anyone would find that an issue.

    There's an account on here that all moderators can access, it's used for announcements only, nobody ever saw it as an issue, as it was simply a means to an end.

    CTWD is not yet a supporters trust, but it will be shortly, nobody's keeping anything from you. In fact, there's just been a new account set up to keep fans informed of such things.
     
    #52
  13. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    59,365
    Likes Received:
    58,675
    This thread should have been ctwd and Allam is a **** then you'd have lots of the usual replies as it is-.

    So

    1. Are these wonderful ideas ctwd have to help the club going to remain a secret until Allam grants you an audience?

    2. Why would Allam need to talk to you. The club is doing very well.

    3. With these meetings there is already a conduit to the fans, why are you needed?

    4. How many of the 1855 ctwd members are season pass holders?

    5. You've met the council privately is it your intention to try and get them to include ctwd in any sale of the stadium with ctwd getting a stake?
     
    #53
  14. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    112,226
    Likes Received:
    77,833
    1. As stated in the OP, the aims of the proposed trust will be posted very shortly, there are several versions written(formal and casual versions), once a decision has been made on which to go with, it will be posted.

    2. Allam doesn't need to talk to us and we don't expect he will, but the club do see a benefit in talking to all fan groups, including CTWD.

    3. The fan group meetings are a good idea and will hopefully lead to improvements for fans on match days, but these fan groups will not deal with the issues that a trust will address(which will become clearer in due course).

    4. You already know I can't answer that question, you've asked it many times, we didn't make having a season pass a requirement of joining CTWD, but most members are local.

    5. We have met with the council, our conversations have been based on facilitating Hull City/SMC developing the stadium, rather than CTWD.
     
    #54
  15. x

    x Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    9,307
    Likes Received:
    3,474
    ..................
     
    #55
  16. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    Is that an official response from CTWD or just a personal one from OLM which can be denied later on as not official if anything changes or comes to light?
     
    #56
  17. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    Hah weasely words.

    I simply said Dutch had my admiration. Suggesting better lines of communication is not the same as creating new multi user accounts. The mod thing is a function of the forum. It's interesting you see the CTWD account in the same way as the mods account. Delusions of grandeur? Or just another power and control thing?
     
    #57
  18. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    39,179
    Likes Received:
    21,269
    You have gone loopy haven't you.
     
    #58
  19. 1MoreAgain

    1MoreAgain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2014
    Messages:
    5,134
    Likes Received:
    4,843
    I hope the board turn round and say they don't have to discuss anything with you lot and tell you where to go,Allam does not have to answer to you and i really hope he says get lost planks.
     
    #59
  20. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    39,179
    Likes Received:
    21,269
    You're just jealous that CTWD are above you and more important than you.

    Start your own Allam fan club.
     
    #60

Share This Page